Screwball Posted October 3 Posted October 3 I just read he is the projected starter on Sunday. WWJLD? What would Jim Leyland do? He's my hero, followed his whole career. Was mad when they hired Sparky (had a dog named Sparky) instead of Jim. Was thrilled when he finally got the job. I live an hour a way from a high school baseball field named after him. I was so sad when he retired. I can't watch his hall of fame speech because I would cry like a baby. I'm guessing Jimmy would give Tarik the ball game one, and tell him to get it done. You take the game to them. Go with your best. Win game one, the pressure is on them. No matter, I'm going to get 40 years older in the next week. Quote
Edman85 Posted October 3 Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Screwball said: I just read he is the projected starter on Sunday. WWJLD? What would Jim Leyland do? He's my hero, followed his whole career. Was mad when they hired Sparky (had a dog named Sparky) instead of Jim. Was thrilled when he finally got the job. I live an hour a way from a high school baseball field named after him. I was so sad when he retired. I can't watch his hall of fame speech because I would cry like a baby. I'm guessing Jimmy would give Tarik the ball game one, and tell him to get it done. You take the game to them. Go with your best. Win game one, the pressure is on them. No matter, I'm going to get 40 years older in the next week. No difference between Game 1 and Game 2. He still gets to go full rest on Game 5 and you can use him twice on full rest in the series if needed. Ask Clayton Kershaw how going on short rest goes as the best lefty in the game. 1 Quote
Screwball Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: There is no way they use him in 1 and 4. They won't use him on three days rest because he's never done that before. Believe me, I miss the days of pitchers going on 3 days rest sometimes and pitching complete games, but it is a different game today. I actually think there are still pitchers today that could pitch more games, more innings, but those days are over. They talk about The Mick, but he was a junk-baller, a completely different deal, so I agree. But, these guys throw every day, they have to. I don't know how to look it up, innings are easy to find (not really for me because I don't look for them) but I would be more interested in pitch counts. And how far between starts. Didn't Skubal have like 6 days between starts not long ago? Maybe the arms are too expensive today. Quote
Screwball Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 minute ago, Edman85 said: No difference between Game 1 and Game 2. He still gets to go full rest on Game 5 and you can use him twice on full rest in the series if needed. Ask Clayton Kershaw how going on short rest goes as the best lefty in the game. Except if you win game one. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted October 3 Posted October 3 All this talk about when Skubal will pitch and how much rest he needs has me thinking about Mickey Lolich in the 68 World Series. Oct 3rd - Game 2 - Complete Game Win Oct 7th - Game 5 - Complete Game Win Oct 10th - Game 7 - Complete Game Win I can safely say that'll never happen again. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted October 3 Posted October 3 You are guaranteed a Game 1 and a Game 2, so why not deploy your best weapon in the way that most optimizes that weapon? And that is pitching him Game 2... and either way the next game after either Game 1 or 2 is Game 5. Saturday - Game 1 Sunday - Game 2 Monday - Off Tuesday - Game 3 Wednesday - Game 4 Thursday - Off Friday - Game 5 Pitchers are worse on short rest. Skubal doesn't do it. Heck, Hinch will often throw a bullpen day in just to give him even an extra day. Having him go on Games 1 and 4 would have him go short rest twice. Game 1 - Montero/Bullpen Chaos Game 2 - Skubal Game 3 - Mize Game 4- Flaherty Game 5- Skubal 2 1 Quote
casimir Posted October 3 Posted October 3 20 minutes ago, smr-nj said: These ESPN broadcasters are unspeakably bad. (Except David Cone. He’s usually good, sometimes funny) One of them just said “two rookies in a pitcher’s duel at the end of two innings” Whaaat??? Stupid. Well, considering SPs don’t go deep into games anymore, they might not be wrong. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Game 2 time is showing on MLB. Sunday @ 8:03 PM on FS1. Good, I get to watch the Lions and then the Tigers. Quote
lordstanley Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said: All this talk about when Skubal will pitch and how much rest he needs has me thinking about Mickey Lolich in the 68 World Series. Oct 3rd - Game 2 - Complete Game Win Oct 7th - Game 5 - Complete Game Win Oct 10th - Game 7 - Complete Game Win I can safely say that'll never happen again. Interesting that in the pre-game show to Game 7 in ‘68 (available on YouTube), Ernie and Pee Wee Reese stressed that Mickey would be on a short leash but might go a few innings. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 3 Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Edman85 said: You are guaranteed a Game 1 and a Game 2, so why not deploy your best weapon in the way that most optimizes that weapon? And that is pitching him Game 2... and either way the next game after either Game 1 or 2 is Game 5. Saturday - Game 1 Sunday - Game 2 Monday - Off Tuesday - Game 3 Wednesday - Game 4 Thursday - Off Friday - Game 5 Pitchers are worse on short rest. Skubal doesn't do it. Heck, Hinch will often throw a bullpen day in just to give him even an extra day. Having him go on Games 1 and 4 would have him go short rest twice. Game 1 - Montero/Bullpen Chaos Game 2 - Skubal Game 3 - Mize Game 4- Flaherty Game 5- Skubal That looks good to me. And if we don't need him for a game 5, he'll be ready for game 1 of the ALCS. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 minute ago, lordstanley said: Interesting that in the pre-game show to Game 7 in ‘68 (available on YouTube), Ernie and Pee Wee Reese stressed that Mickey would be on a short leash but might go a few innings. Did you ever hear Mickey talk about that game? After about the 3rd inning, Mayo asked him for "just one more inning." He did the same thing the next couple of innings. After that, he didn't even bother talking to him. 😅😅 1 Quote
casimir Posted October 3 Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, Edman85 said: You are guaranteed a Game 1 and a Game 2, so why not deploy your best weapon in the way that most optimizes that weapon? And that is pitching him Game 2... and either way the next game after either Game 1 or 2 is Game 5. Saturday - Game 1 Sunday - Game 2 Monday - Off Tuesday - Game 3 Wednesday - Game 4 Thursday - Off Friday - Game 5 Pitchers are worse on short rest. Skubal doesn't do it. Heck, Hinch will often throw a bullpen day in just to give him even an extra day. Having him go on Games 1 and 4 would have him go short rest twice. Game 1 - Montero/Bullpen Chaos Game 2 - Skubal Game 3 - Mize Game 4- Flaherty Game 5- Skubal Considering that Seattle hasn’t seen game action in a few days, game one as pitching chaos might be good. Just saw that if the Yankees win, the Tigers play game one at 8:38. If the Red Sox win, the Tigers play game one at 4:08. Quote
lordstanley Posted October 3 Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Did you ever hear Mickey talk about that game? After about the 3rd inning, Mayo asked him for "just one more inning." He did the same thing the next couple of innings. After that, he didn't even bother talking to him. 😅😅 That’s great, I hadn’t heard that. Here is the radio clip. So I didn’t recall it exactly right, but the gist. Pee Wee said that pitching coach Johnny Sain would watch Mickey’s bullpen warmup and report to Mayo Smith. If Mickey looked a little off, Pee Wee speculated the Tigers might have a reliever up and throwing right from the outset. Quote
Screwball Posted October 3 Posted October 3 13 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: All this talk about when Skubal will pitch and how much rest he needs has me thinking about Mickey Lolich in the 68 World Series. Oct 3rd - Game 2 - Complete Game Win Oct 7th - Game 5 - Complete Game Win Oct 10th - Game 7 - Complete Game Win I can safely say that'll never happen again. He also hit a home run. Quote
4hzglory Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: And 2 of them were watching on TV. 😅😅 Along with all of the Mets acquisitions. Quote
Tenacious D Posted October 3 Posted October 3 I think you have to optimize Skubal—that’s game 2. Even if he pitches Game 1, you still have pitching chaos on Game 2. Best to flip them. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted October 3 Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, Screwball said: He also hit a home run. It wasn't a cheap one either. It also ended up being the game winning run. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted October 3 Posted October 3 With Skub going 2&5, you're putting all the pressure on the Mariners out of the gate in game one. We may be throwing a Hinch-trademarked chaos day, but the Mariners have to approach that game, fresh off nearly a week of rest, as if it's game two and they're down a game. If the Ms lose game one and know they have two Skubal starts remaining? They're on their heels, just in need of a knock out punch. (Not that they'll wave the white flag in game 2 regardless. But I like the strategy even if Skubal could go 1&4 on regular rest). Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 3 Posted October 3 After it became available on mlb.tv, I revisited the Tigers seventh inning and the Guardians ninth and those guys in the Cleveland dugout were a sad looking crew. As were their fans. I’m amazed that for the deciding game of this series Cleveland still couldn’t get a sell out. A part of me still feels like I’m dreaming. Short of a collapse it looks like the Yankees are cruising to win. Quote
4hzglory Posted October 3 Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: After it became available on mlb.tv, I revisited the Tigers seventh inning and the Guardians ninth and those guys in the Cleveland dugout were a sad looking crew. As were their fans. I’m amazed that for the deciding game of this series Cleveland still couldn’t get a sell out. A part of me still feels like I’m dreaming. Short of a collapse it looks like the Yankees are cruising to win. I’m finding myself glad the Yankees are winning-let Bregman feel what it’s like to lose in the wild card back to back years while we move on. 🤪 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Just now, 4hzglory said: I’m finding myself glad the Yankees are winning-let Bregman feel what it’s like to lose in the wild card back to back years while we move on. 🤪 I agree. And I wanted a later start. I have an obligation between 3 and 4 that I can't get out of. And no communication allowed. I already may miss watching the UM 2nd half or so...DVR it... Quote
oblong Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Hell yeah let the Yanks win. They can then beat Toronto. We can beat Seattle. We know how Tigers/Yankees in the playoffs turn out. Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 hour ago, kdog said: Granted, but compared to some clubs that’s a small sample. Quote
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