2025-2026 Tigers Off Season Thread

[Arlington]

Year	Pick	Player	Position
2015	22	Beau Burrows	RHP
2015	34 (Comp)	Christin Stewart	OF
2016	9	Matt Manning	RHP
2017	18	Alex Faedo	RHP
2018	1	Casey Mize	RHP
2019	5	Riley Greene	OF
2020	1	Spencer Torkelson	1B/3B
2021	3	Jackson Jobe	RHP
2022	12	Jace Jung	2B/3B

[Arlington]

Here's something to be proud of  https://info.baseball-reference.com/25-br-mlb-season-review

Tigers have the most page-views on Baseball Reference of any team in their division.  Take that Guardians

 

[4hzglory]

23 minutes ago, Arlington said:

Year	Pick	Player	Position
2015	22	Beau Burrows	RHP
2015	34 (Comp)	Christin Stewart	OF
2016	9	Matt Manning	RHP
2017	18	Alex Faedo	RHP
2018	1	Casey Mize	RHP
2019	5	Riley Greene	OF
2020	1	Spencer Torkelson	1B/3B
2021	3	Jackson Jobe	RHP
2022	12	Jace Jung	2B/3B

In 2022, we could have had our SS if Avila would have listened to his scouts.

 

TBF, when you add in Skubal, Carpenter, Kieth, Meadows, and a few other pitchers, he did ok in the later rounds, but other than the top 5 picks he struggled in the first, and 2022 is exceptionally rough when the scouts supposedly wanted Neto and Avila overrode them.

[4hzglory]

11 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

In 2022, we could have had our SS if Avila would have listened to his scouts.

 

TBF, when you add in Skubal, Carpenter, Kieth, Meadows, and a few other pitchers, he did ok in the later rounds, but other than the top 5 picks he struggled in the first, and 2022 is exceptionally rough when the scouts supposedly wanted Neto and Avila overrode them.

Maybe not even quite that good.  He did get Melton, Vest, and Hurter, and but he didn’t even average 2 players per draft who had multiple full mlb seasons.  

Edited yesterday at 04:39 AM by 4hzglory

[IdahoBert]

29 minutes ago, Arlington said:

Here's something to be proud of  https://info.baseball-reference.com/25-br-mlb-season-review

Tigers have the most page-views on Baseball Reference of any team in their division.  Take that Guardians

 

I’m sure there’s a true crime website where they have us beat. 

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, Arlington said:

Here's something to be proud of  https://info.baseball-reference.com/25-br-mlb-season-review

Tigers have the most page-views on Baseball Reference of any team in their division.  Take that Guardians

 

I would love to see how many actual pages were viewed, to see how they scale against each other.

I don’t know whether I’m surprised the Phillies have more views than the Braves, given the Braves’ legacy and their hold on an entire region.

Cardinals are fifth in the NL Central in page views? My, how the mighty have fallen. Couldn’t happen to a nicer fan base.

[romad1]

AI has junked up all the social media platforms regarding the Tiger offseason.  I'm just glad my mentally handicapped brother isn't able to monitor all the stupid trades and assertions that Skubal "is a free agent" and that the Yankees need to go out and sign him.  

[1984Echoes]

11 hours ago, 4hzglory said:

The Orioles are supposedly open to trading controllable OF bats for controllable pitching.  Why would they trade Grayson for 1 yr of an OF if they didn’t have significant concerns about his health?

Proof is in the pudding.

I don't care about the Orioles concerns.

What are you telling me, that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Orioles to make a mistake?

[RatkoVarda]

2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

What are you telling me, that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Orioles to make a mistake?

the market has spoken. this is all that Rodriguez was worth. and it is not very much.

so the question is not, are the Os wrong? the question is, is the marketplace wrong?

if the Tigers offered Carp or Perez for Rodriguez, the Os would have instantly taken that over Ward, a lesser, more expensive player, with less team control.

but the Tigers did not make that trade for a reason.

I am begging you not to think that the one of the worst run franchises in professional sports somehow has gamed the system and outmaneuvered 28 other teams to acquire a huge asset for pennies on the dollar.

could that be true? yes, it could be true. is it? nope

[1984Echoes]

And all I'm saying is that I think the proof will be in the pudding.

That the future is not yet determined.

That I will wait and see exactly what Grayson is, or is not, capable of producing (meaning he has to be healthy to produce anything) in 2026 and/or beyond.

Maybe I have a belief in him when he says the elbow surgery, removing bone spurs, removed pain that he's had for the past 3/4 years, and that favoring his elbow somewhat was the cause of all his lat-strains. That now everything is hunky-dory.

Maybe he's full of it and I'm being Too-Sunny-Optimist, again.

But we'll see.

I am hell-bent however, on adding one more #2/3 level starter.

If it's not Grayson (obviously not since we didn't trade for him), then I am back on the Tatsuya Imai bandwagon.

I still believe, however, that Grayson is going to have a great 2026.

But that's just me.

[4hzglory]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

Proof is in the pudding.

I don't care about the Orioles concerns.

What are you telling me, that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Orioles to make a mistake?

No, just that there is likely a reason he went for so little when his profile is exactly what the Orioles are supposedly looking for.

[1984Echoes]

Whatever.

I'm certain everyone is going to maintain their position, whatever it is, no matter the dialogue here.

I'm maintaining mine.

[4hzglory]

19 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

And all I'm saying is that I think the proof will be in the pudding.

That the future is not yet determined.

That I will wait and see exactly what Grayson is, or is not, capable of producing (meaning he has to be healthy to produce anything) in 2026 and/or beyond.

Maybe I have a belief in him when he says the elbow surgery, removing bone spurs, removed pain that he's had for the past 3/4 years, and that favoring his elbow somewhat was the cause of all his lat-strains. That now everything is hunky-dory.

Maybe he's full of it and I'm being Too-Sunny-Optimist, again.

But we'll see.

I am hell-bent however, on adding one more #2/3 level starter.

If it's not Grayson (obviously not since we didn't trade for him), then I am back on the Tatsuya Imai bandwagon.

I still believe, however, that Grayson is going to have a great 2026.

But that's just me.

I definitely think they need to make a push for a #2/3.  I am hoping they don’t go for a guy with huge injury concerns for that.

[Tiger337]

8 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

I definitely think they need to make a push for a #2/3.  I am hoping they don’t go for a guy with huge injury concerns for that.

I hope they pursue Cease, Valdez, Suarez and King. King is a big injury risk, but he is too talented to ignore.  

[Tigermojo]

They signed Maeda previously so I wonder if Harris will look at the international market. Would Maeda  recommend Detroit to other players or was that bridge burned?

[1984Echoes]

2 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

... wonder if Harris will look at the international market...

With no draft pick attached... it's why I would be very interested in Murakami (3B) and Imai (SP).

[papalawrence]

Unless Harris shifts his course, I see someone like Lorenzen back in the old English D. I hope I am wrong and that Harris is open to learning from his misCOBBstakes.

[1984Echoes]

1 minute ago, papalawrence said:

Unless Harris shifts his course, ... I hope I am wrong and that Harris is open to learning from his misCOBBstakes.

I hope Harris shoots for higher.

Less expensive shots at potential depth are fine... but at least 1 or 2 or 3 higher end adds...

Please.

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

Unless Harris shifts his course, I see someone like Lorenzen back in the old English D. I hope I am wrong and that Harris is open to learning from his misCOBBstakes.

Thas been his MO so far - find someone who they can get on a short-term deal and try to fix him.  Skubal has made it clear he wants them to take it to another level, so if they want to keep him (which is sounding like a little more of a possibility lately), they might have to spend.  I am not too confident they'll do that, but I am hopeful.   

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

...  I am not too confident they'll do that, but I am hopeful.   

Same here.

[SoCalTiger]

23 hours ago, chasfh said:

That was a pretty good nut the blind squirrel found.

Except Olsen is as fragile as toilet paper in a rain storm. He can't stay on the field.

[SoCalTiger]

Al Avila was a dinosaur dealing with far more advanced GM's using analytics.  As mentioned above he could have drafted Neto or Mayer for shortstop instead on Jobe or Jung. He signed Baez to bookend with Zimmerman to show he did not know how to sign free agents. When the pressure built he traded Parades for a declining outfielder with a rising salary. He could have built a super left side of our infield.He failed. 

His game plan was to present us fans many years of terrible baseball and collect number one picks. Anyone could have done that and of course he "hit" on a few. You can "hit" on a few in Vegas and still lose your shirt. 

Yes he hired Hinch and Garko and I would much prefer having a beer with Al than Scot but Scot is Worlds above Al at building an organization and team and we are lucky Junior got that one right. 

[RatkoVarda]

Vierling signs for 3.225M

[Tiger337]

8 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Vierling signs for 3.225M

I kind of forgot about him last year, but he's a pretty solid player when he's healthy.  He was basically replaced by Perez last year which hurt the team.  

[papalawrence]

29 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Vierling signs for 3.225M

Good to hear. Brieske also signed for slightly lower than projected, 1.15 mil

Edited 21 hours ago by papalawrence