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8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

WTF are you talking about? Fetterman ran as a progressive. He was endorsed by Bernie Sanders. He was the populist left wing candidate. Conor Lamb was the moderate. 

I want to level set this topic.  Is Fetterman the way he is because he "took a journey" because of his illness or as a reaction to Oct7?  Or is he this way because he was always this way?  

Connor Lamb would have been my preferred Senator there in every way.  

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Just now, romad1 said:

I want to level set this topic.  Is Fetterman the way he is because he "took a journey" because of his illness or as a reaction to Oct7?  Or is he this way because he was always this way?  

Connor Lamb would have been my preferred Senator there in every way.  

He was always this way. Look at Tulsi Gabbard. A hero of Bernie Sanders and the far left. Hillary Clinton had her figured out early and Sanders and the left rushed to her defense. Platner is another one. There was that Kay woman in Illinois. It’s funny how a lot of the far left was either Republicans or turned Republican. It’s a party for white people who don’t want to be labeled republicans. 

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I will never vote for Abdul El-Sayed. Am I supposed to be blindly vote for whoever Democratic leadership tells me to vote for? My vote is sacred. My personal identity is tied to whoever I vote for. The candidate I vote for must be pure. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I will never vote for Abdul El-Sayed. Am I supposed to be blindly vote for whoever Democratic leadership tells me to vote for? My vote is sacred. My personal identity is tied to whoever I vote for. The candidate I vote for must be pure. 

I deeply regret that 4 week period where I was rooting for Ted Cruz against Trump in the 2016 cycle.   The ideal candidate: a person who is worried about how his grandkids (i.e., the future) will think about his legacy.  You don't get too many of those.  

Posted
1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

When your choice is Hitler or democracy, this is 100% correct. Like, how is this even debatable? 

Not everyone sees it that way. There are people that believe we are screwed either way.  Nobody is entitled to their vote.  

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Literally 77,302,580 people voted for trump (hitler) in 2024 and hes here bashing 1800 people in Michigan who DIDNT vote for Trump (hitler)  as the reason trump won which is false on its face, numbers posted a few weeks ago.

Its weird as hell

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Not everyone sees it that way. There are people that believe we are screwed either way.  Nobody is entitled to their vote.  

Like, how is this even debatable????

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Tulsi was a hero of the left LMAO

Similarly larry summers was a hero of the establishment.   

Clean your own house hoss

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42 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Not everyone sees it that way. There are people that believe we are screwed either way.  Nobody is entitled to their vote.  

That's why I blamed the voters but apparently they are all innocent in the decisions they make. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

That's why I blamed the voters but apparently they are all innocent in the decisions they make. 

So, everybody needs to vote for your candidate?  That doesn't sound like democracy,.  

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7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

So, everybody needs to vote for your candidate?  That doesn't sound like democracy,.  

They need to vote for the non fascist. That option was very clear in 2024 and they chose the guy who literally said he would be a fascist over the black woman and her laugh. Voters are the reason the US has slipped into fascism. 

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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

because Dems are virtue signaling that they aren’t going to accept pac money. It’s redistricting all over again. Blue states unilaterally disarmed themselves over purity contests while red states continued to gerrymander. Same thing with pac money. 

pac money is not the reason big donors have issues with national party membership. It's more doubts over the quality of the leadership. And it's quite possible the old guard donors are wrong and Martin is right - I'm not in a position to argue that, but party level donations are lagging. The Corp-PAC pledge is individual candidates, not the DNC

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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

WTF are you talking about? Fetterman ran as a progressive. He was endorsed by Bernie Sanders. He was the populist left wing candidate. Conor Lamb was the moderate. 

LOL - nobody confuses John Fetterman with AOC.

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1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

LOL - nobody confuses John Fetterman with AOC.

Of course not now, but he ran as the progressive. He was endorsed in the primary by Bernie Sanders. Fetterman supported Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. Fetterman distanced himself from progressives after he got elected. This isn't debatable. He ran as a progressive. 

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37 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

Nice inflation, gas prices, war and unconstitutional doge bro nailed that vote

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1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

So, everybody needs to vote for your candidate?  That doesn't sound like democracy,.  

Exactly. 

Like, how is this even debatable?

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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

It's amazing how Fetterman was the Platner of 2022 who the progressive liked, and as soon as he won and changed his stripes, it's all he was never progressive, he was the establishment conservative Dem. 

Platner doesn't hide the things he disagrees with Progressives about. He's primarily an economic progressive. That's what the Dems have to coalesce around to win. Forget fighting on the culture stuff, hammer the economic and political oligarchy. David Brooks tends to be all over the map, but he wrote something recently that I think hits the nail spot on the head - the reason the vast majority of people in the US are so ticked off is the feeling of loss of empowerment. Everything in this country has gotten re-engineered to where it only serves the rich. Everyone else has to deal with a million indignities their parents never faced,  from not being able to get a person on the phone at customer service to their votes being negated by gerrymandering, to not being able to afford a house, or even Disneyland, you can't afford to stay home and raise your kids, if you go to work you can't afford day care, and looming over all of it is that they are afraid to get sick or lose a job because the path to upward mobility has been blown to smithereens. 

Don't get pulled into winless debates about who is more at fault in the ME, or the border, or your preferences about transgender athletes or defunding the police, you can not win there.

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16 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Platner doesn't hide the things he disagrees with Progressives about. He's primarily an economic progressive. That's what the Dems have to coalesce around to win. Forget fighting on the culture stuff, hammer the economic and political oligarchy. David Brooks tends to be all over the map, but he wrote something recently that I think hits the nail spot on the head - the reason the vast majority of people in the US are so ticked off is the feeling of loss of empowerment. Everything in this country has gotten re-engineered to where it only serves the rich. Everyone else has to deal with a million indignities their parents never faced,  from not being able to get a person on the phone at customer service to their votes being negated by gerrymandering, to not being able to afford a house, or even Disneyland, you can't afford to stay home and raise your kids, if you go to work you can't afford day care, and looming over all of it is that they are afraid to get sick or lose a job because the path to upward mobility has been blown to smithereens. 

Don't get pulled into winless debates about who is more at fault in the ME, or the border, or your preferences about transgender athletes or defunding the police, you can not win there.

Yes, that was Fetterman. Fetterman was an economic populist on the left. The problem with Platner is, he's a Republican who voted for Susan Collins. His whole working man persona is a lie. He's a grifter and opportunist. Now apparently we are supposed to just ignore everything because a guy with literally no experience comes on the scene saying all the right buzzwords and is an avatar of what people think white working class looks like. 

Biden was an economic progressive. He was old and boring. It's not about economic progressiveness, it's all about culture. Fetterman is a fat slob who looks like the typical MAGA voter. That was his appeal. Platner wears flannel and has a beaver's ass on his face so he's a manly man. They are both con men like Trump. 

People are ticked off at the party because they strip the Dems of their power and expect them to do something like there is just some magic trick they are refusing to do that would completely stop Trump. I have yet to hear any new ideas from these young candidates like Platner. 

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4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I will never vote for Abdul El-Sayed. 

BTW, AES now running on the fact that AIPAC is supporting his opponent as a positive campaign argument. Another measure of how much times have changed.

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