Who should be the next Lions OC?

[lordstanley]

I sure hope this didn’t come down to money. After Morton, I didn’t want a reach that may turn out well, I wanted a relatively safe choice. This is risky. 

Edited 3 hours ago by lordstanley

[Jason_R]

 

[Hongbit]

I would’ve liked better but I'm not unhappy with this move.  

He’s been a play caller before and has some pedigree getting a run game going.   He had them scoring points with Jacoby Briseett, Bam Knight, and Michael Wilson as offensive weapons.  

[sagnam]

Maybe this was genius. Or maybe this is a head coach afraid to hire his own mid-season replacement. Time will tell.

[MichiganCardinal]

It’s hard to not be disappointed by this not being one of the first 20 names I thought of. But there were worse options out there, including those on the list. Assuming Petzing will call plays and allow Campbell to manage the game, that alone is a big upgrade.

I don’t think it’s particularly hard to make the offensive weapons on the Lions look good. It’s more of an indictment on Morton than a credit to Johnson that one succeeded and the other failed.

They cast a wide net and we have to trust this is the right guy. Because if it’s not it’s not just Petzing on the hot seat a year from now.

Edited 3 hours ago by MichiganCardinal

[papalawrence]

I was confident they'd land a guy with a proven track record. I'm underwhelmed. Hate to say this, but if this hire doesn't help them to the playoffs next year, might coach Campbell be on the hot seat?

[Shinzaki]

18 minutes ago, sagnam said:

Maybe this was genius. Or maybe this is a head coach afraid to hire his own mid-season replacement. Time will tell.

I don't see Campbell being that insecure

[Motown Bombers]

Weird how people wanted Stefanski as OC when the Browns offense was terrible but not Petzing who coached with Stefanski in Minnesota and Cleveland and seems to have a scheme tailor made for this personnel. 

[MichiganCardinal]

Campbell doesn’t coach scared. And I don’t doubt he’ll replace Petzing if needed.

I do wonder if part of the calculus is trying to get a step ahead of the next hottest thing. Ten head jobs were open this year. If you hire a guy like McDaniel or even Scheelhaase or Peetz, you’ll be back in the same spot next year.

Petzing is probably a few years away from being a serious head coach contender.

[buddha]

the lions have had one successful offensive coordinator under holmes/campbell and that was ben johnson.  hard to give them the benefit of the doubt in coordinator hirings.

that said, what the heck do we know about it?  the problems last year stemmed from their inability to replace ragnow and zietler more than the oc, imo.  that falls on holmes, not campbell.  the oc turns into a fall guy for personnel lapses, injuries, and bad luck more times than not.

hopefully this guy turns into the next ben johnson without the ultra cutesy **** that got him in trouble from time to time.

[Jason_R]

Courtesy Justin Rogers:

With Murray healthy all 17 games in 2024, the Cardinals’ offense jumped to 12th in scoring, fueled by a rushing attack led by back James Conner that averaged 5.3 yards per carry. That ranked second in the NFL, behind only the Baltimore Ravens.

[Motor City Sonics]

We could have dreamed about Stafanski, but with so many openings this year, there was no way he wouldn't get a Head Coaching gig somewhere.  He's a good coach, it's just the Browns, man.     He gets a fresh start in Atlanta with some real talent.    

For McDermott it was a Super Bowl or Bust year.      I would not be shocked to see the Bills hire Bellichick on a 2 or 3 year deal because they have a realistic window of 2 or 3 years.   As long as you have Josh Allen you have a shot - if things break your way.  

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

We could have dreamed about Stafanski, but with so many openings this year, there was no way he wouldn't get a Head Coaching gig somewhere.  He's a good coach, it's just the Browns, man.     He gets a fresh start in Atlanta with some real talent.    

For McDermott it was a Super Bowl or Bust year.      I would not be shocked to see the Bills hire Bellichick on a 2 or 3 year deal because they have a realistic window of 2 or 3 years.   As long as you have Josh Allen you have a shot - if things break your way.  

Petzing coached under Stefanski and the Browns offense was horrible. 

[Motor City Sonics]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Petzing coached under Stefanski and the Browns offense was horrible. 

McDaniel is the one I'd like.  I think he is a guy that will be a Head Coach again, but maybe after another OC stint.

I think Daboll would be a favorite in Buffalo. 

[Motor City Sonics]

Wait, they already hired Petzing.    Yawn.   

[Jason_R]

I thought McDaniel was too weird to get another HC gig right away. But he is getting the interviews. I assume he will get hired as HC this cycle. And I assume the Lions assumed as much. But if he ends up as OC with Tampa, this will  be a bad look for Detroit. 

[Jason_R]

 

[Sports_Freak]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Jason_R]

 

[sagnam]

I think being friends with a success coordinator it really something that should be on a resume. Being a midling coordinator for a bad team is neither a positive or a negative. So we shall see if he made the best with Murray and Conner, or if someone had to get some yards. We will see.

 

I personally don’t care if coordinator leaves every year or so. Success does that. Guess who isn’t getting a HC gig? Morton. Because he was bad.

 

Morton’s numbers probably look pretty good. He led a Lions offense for half a season that I see people here say was highly successful based on their stats. We all know he was in fact not successful. He didn’t know how to use the players he had. He was replaced mid season.

[romad1]

20 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

I thought McDaniel was too weird to get another HC gig right away. But he is getting the interviews. I assume he will get hired as HC this cycle. And I assume the Lions assumed as much. But if he ends up as OC with Tampa, this will  be a bad look for Detroit. 

McDaniel seems like he might be one phone call away from insulting his Narco patrons, killing his best friend who married his sister, and within a few hours telling the Colombians and Jamaican who are assaulting his mansion to come say hello to his little friend.  

Edited 2 hours ago by romad1

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Under Petzing's watch in Arizona the Cardinals had the following offensive rankings . . .

FYI sack % is essentially what percentage of the time does the QB end up getting sacked. A higher ranking means your QB was less likely to be sacked and a lower rankings in the 20s or below means he was more likely to be sacked.

2025: 19th in yards/game, 5th in total passing yards, 31st in total rushing yards, 23rd in total points, 21st in EPA with -.02 EPA (Expected points per play), 25th in sack %.

2024: 11th in yards/game, 21st in total passing yards, 7th in total rushing yards, 12th in total points, 10th in EPA with .06 EPA (Expected points per play), 5th in sack %.

2023: 19th in yards/game, 26th in total passing yards, 5th in total rushing yards, 24th in total points, 21st in EPA with -.07 EPA (Expected points per play), 21st in sack %.

The Lions have the same talent to work with that Arizona did? Its comparing apples to oranges. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Sports_Freak

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Lions have the same talent to work with that Arizona did? Its comparing apples to oranges. 

The Lions talent fits Petzing better than Arizona. Murray in not an under center dropback QB like Goff. 

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The Lions talent fits Petzing better than Arizona. Murray in not an under center dropback QB like Goff. 

Thats why comparing him to his Arizona years doesn't make much sense. If he had really good players and struggled, I would agree. But he may work out, or not. We'll see, but Campbell calling the plays really wasn't ideal.