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20 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

We really need to change the title of this thread

Nah, it'll go into the HOF, along with the 2008 Tigers 1000 Runs Watch and the Obama impeachment threads.

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Posted
6 hours ago, pfife said:

The GOP cares more about giving pallets of cash to iran than they care about pedos, DOGE dividends, tarrif refunds, or Americans' health insurance premiums.

Arabs& Middle Easterners

 

America first indeed.

Thanks for reminding me about the DOGE dividends and tariff refunds.  I am looking foward to it.  

Posted

If it weren’t for “Bibi” (such a cute name!), Trump himself would do or say something that would precipitate a closure. That ilk can’t help themselves.

Posted (edited)

Now it's open, now it's not.....

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Iran’s armed forces struck a container ship that was passing through the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday, according to U.S. and Iranian officials, undermining efforts to restore shipping traffic through the crucial waterway. - nyt

Half the posts on this sub got me feeling like I'm in Marathon Man :  r/Detroit

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  • 2 weeks later...
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This is what I would expect when the White Trash Bigots of America vote into office the most ignorant, brainless MF'ing corrupt scumbag fascist wannabe into office... Not once, but TWICE. And not just twice, but the second time AFTER he lost in 2020 and attempted to overthrow the Constitution of the United States of America (I don't EVER want to hear from my father or MAGA or these white trash bigoted brainless MF'ing fascist wannabe scumbags again: "I'm a PATRIOT!!!" "I voted for DEMOCRACY in America, not communism" (No you did NOT vote for Democracy) "If you don't like "Murica, just leave!")

1) I would expect President Dumb**** to pull out of the Iran Nuclear deal because of his intense bigoted hatred/jealousy of President Obama. Obama is a black president after all so how could he possibly make a great deal that stops Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Oh, right, that's what he did. President Dumb**** thought he found a way to crap all over President Obama by pulling out of a great deal.

2) I would expect President Dumb**** to completely **** UP a war against Iran.

3) Oh, he has. He has COMPLETELY exposed his own level of stupidity (sky-high), exposed the paper-thin security and sensitivity of the Strait of Hormuz and its impact on the world economy. The limits to American impudence. He has empowered Iran to the nth degree EVEN WITHOUT any nuclear weapons... He has GIVEN Iran the KEYS to controlling the world economy, to threaten and or extort it, to profit from it, and to plan its entire military/ economic strategy around controlling/ and/or threatening/ and/or imposing transit fees/ security fees as a major boost to its economy.

Iran is SITTING PRETTY right about now.

Something like this:

Iran’s new plan to take on the US

All because we have a brainless MF'ing IMBECILE elected by white trash bigots as our president. Not once, but twice, and the 2nd time after he **** all over our democracy.

/hatred of Trump/MAGA and his ilk rant.

Posted
1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

This is what I would expect when the White Trash Bigots of America vote into office the most ignorant, brainless MF'ing corrupt scumbag fascist wannabe into office... Not once, but TWICE. And not just twice, but the second time AFTER he lost in 2020 and attempted to overthrow the Constitution of the United States of America (I don't EVER want to hear from my father or MAGA or these white trash bigoted brainless MF'ing fascist wannabe scumbags again: "I'm a PATRIOT!!!" "I voted for DEMOCRACY in America, not communism" (No you did NOT vote for Democracy) "If you don't like "Murica, just leave!")

1) I would expect President Dumb**** to pull out of the Iran Nuclear deal because of his intense bigoted hatred/jealousy of President Obama. Obama is a black president after all so how could he possibly make a great deal that stops Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Oh, right, that's what he did. President Dumb**** thought he found a way to crap all over President Obama by pulling out of a great deal.

2) I would expect President Dumb**** to completely **** UP a war against Iran.

3) Oh, he has. He has COMPLETELY exposed his own level of stupidity (sky-high), exposed the paper-thin security and sensitivity of the Strait of Hormuz and its impact on the world economy. The limits to American impudence. He has empowered Iran to the nth degree EVEN WITHOUT any nuclear weapons... He has GIVEN Iran the KEYS to controlling the world economy, to threaten and or extort it, to profit from it, and to plan its entire military/ economic strategy around controlling/ and/or threatening/ and/or imposing transit fees/ security fees as a major boost to its economy.

Iran is SITTING PRETTY right about now.

Something like this:

Iran’s new plan to take on the US

All because we have a brainless MF'ing IMBECILE elected by white trash bigots as our president. Not once, but twice, and the 2nd time after he **** all over our democracy.

/hatred of Trump/MAGA and his ilk rant.

the only thing that you can take from the whole situation is that more countries will now work to get off oil faster, and more oil will start finding ways out of ME by routes other than the SOH. So in the long run, whatever short term advantage Iran gains will be a declining asset. Of course the 'long run' leaves Iran a lot of time to be a PITA

Posted
20 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

the only thing that you can take from the whole situation is that more countries will now work to get off oil faster, and more oil will start finding ways out of ME by routes other than the SOH. So in the long run, whatever short term advantage Iran gains will be a declining asset. Of course the 'long run' leaves Iran a lot of time to be a PITA

My only correction would be:

I believe you mean "the only positives that can be taken", which is, essentially, what you are saying the balance of your post.

And I agree with those positive takes.

The movement away from oil has already been happening at an advanced pace in Asia and Europe (and Canada but... NOT in Trump's Neanderthalic America because... reasons...). This (Iran situation) does nothing but add importance and speed to the move away from oil.

As to the second point, hilariously, Israel has offered the Negev desert as a safe pipeline transit-way from the ME to the Mediterranean bypassing both the Strait of Hormuz and the now-treacherous Yemeni coastline/ Red Sea chokepoint. I mean, how would the ME get oil TO Israel...? And Israel would still need to protect any overland routes from Iranian or Yemeni or Hamas or Hezbollah malfeasance... Just sort of... funny... that they even offered.

But yes, everyone is searching for Iran/Yemeni (Houthi) bypass options as fast as they can. It may make Caucasus/ Caspian/ Turkish routes more advantageous for Kurdish/ Azerbaijani/ similar countries oil.

Still, as you've mentioned, there will be lots of pain in the meantime.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

Honestly, though, is that such a newsworthy comment for him to make? I mean, he has said literally thousands more insulting and more ridiculous things than that. You can’t lead every newscast with every ridiculous and insulting thing he says— there are simply not enough hours in a day to do so. They have to draw a line somewhere.

Not for nothing, that is in part why their firehose works so well.

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Posted
5 hours ago, romad1 said:

well, apparently the dead have spoken

 

Just because its good journalism and whatever this was is terrible journalism.  I'm going to repost my favorite bit of journalism:  

Indiana had a hell of an alumn in Ernie Pyle. 

https://erniepyle.iu.edu/wartime-columns/captain-waskow.html

This line in particular

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I don’t know who that first one was. You feel small in the presence of dead men, and ashamed at being alive, and you don’t ask silly questions.

 

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