Edman85 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 12 hours ago, pfife said: Apologies Ed. All good. I'm trying to stay out of here anyways. Just really more giving more advice than anything else that feeding trolls only empowers them and drains you. Ignoring them drains them. 2 Quote
romad1 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 52 minutes ago, Edman85 said: All good. I'm trying to stay out of here anyways. Just really more giving more advice than anything else that feeding trolls only empowers them and drains you. Ignoring them drains them. consider the situation. People are actually worried that the government is going to take reprisals because you have dissenting opinions to the dear leader. There are plenty of real examples so its not a fantasy. Its hard not to want to vent. Quote
Edman85 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 8 hours ago, romad1 said: consider the situation. People are actually worried that the government is going to take reprisals because you have dissenting opinions to the dear leader. There are plenty of real examples so its not a fantasy. Its hard not to want to vent. There is venting, and there is arguing with bad faith trolls. All that does is raise your stress levels, waste your time, and sometimes bring you to their level. Best to ignore it. The last few weeks of trying that has been pretty liberating. 2 1 Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Remember, she is future of the Democratic Party… Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 🤣 Deloitte is a British multinational professional services network, one of the "Big Four" accounting firms, that provides audit, consulting, tax, and advisory services to a wide range of clients. Founded in 1845, it has grown to be the largest professional services network in the world by revenue and has approximately 460,000 employees across over 150 countries and territories. Global presence: The network is composed of member firms in more than 150 countries, allowing it to serve clients globally Services: Deloitte offers a variety of professional services, including audit and assurance, management consulting, financial advisory, risk advisory, tax, and legal services. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: 🤣 Deloitte is a British multinational professional services network, one of the "Big Four" accounting firms, that provides audit, consulting, tax, and advisory services to a wide range of clients. Founded in 1845, it has grown to be the largest professional services network in the world by revenue and has approximately 460,000 employees across over 150 countries and territories. Global presence: The network is composed of member firms in more than 150 countries, allowing it to serve clients globally Services: Deloitte offers a variety of professional services, including audit and assurance, management consulting, financial advisory, risk advisory, tax, and legal services. the river in question was probably the Cuyahoga in Cleveland, which did famously catch fire a number of times in the '60's prior to the passage of the clean water act. I couldn't tell you off the top of my head who the major industrial operators were. Republic Steel was there but there were many others. I have no idea how AOC would have gotten to Deloitte - clearly misinformed or typoed or a sloppy research. That bit aside, 'burning rivers' in the pre EPA days is truthy. If you missed the 60's you really don't have any idea how bad the environment was before the clean-up started. You could see the smog hanging over ever major city, smell the stink walking near any highly trafficked road, crappy dead inland water everywhere. It was real and it was bad. Edited October 16 by gehringer_2 2 1 Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: I have not idea how AOC would have gotten to Deloitte - clearly misinformed or typoed or a sloppy research. All the above. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 16 Posted October 16 The Cuyahoga River has a notorious history of fires, with at least 14 recorded incidents, the most famous occurring in 1969, which became a catalyst for the American environmental movement. Overview of Fires The Cuyahoga River, located in Northeast Ohio, has been heavily impacted by industrial pollution, particularly during the 19th and 20th centuries when Cleveland emerged as a manufacturing hub. The river caught fire multiple times, with notable incidents in 1868, 1912, 1948, 1952, and 1969. The 1969 fire, sparked by an oil slick ignited by a train's spark, lasted about 20 minutes and caused approximately $50,000 in damage, primarily to railroad bridges. Wikipedia+1 The 1969 Fire On June 22, 1969, the Cuyahoga River caught fire due to industrial debris and oil slicks on its surface. Although the fire was relatively minor and extinguished quickly, it garnered significant media attention, particularly after Time magazine published an article that described the river as one that "oozes rather than flows". This incident helped to raise awareness about water pollution and its environmental impacts, leading to a broader public outcry for environmental reform. Smithsonian Magazine+2 Impact on Environmental Policy The 1969 fire became a symbol of the environmental crisis in America, contributing to the establishment of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in 1970 and the first Earth Day celebrations. It highlighted the need for stricter regulations on industrial pollution and spurred efforts to clean up the river, which has since seen significant improvements in water quality and ecosystem health. Wikipedia+1 Historical Context Prior to the 1969 fire, the Cuyahoga River had burned multiple times, with the most severe incident occurring in 1952, which caused over $1 million in damages. Despite the frequency of these fires, public concern was minimal, as pollution was often viewed as a necessary byproduct of industrial growth. The changing attitudes towards environmental issues in the late 1960s, however, marked a turning point in public perception and policy regarding pollution and conservation efforts. Smithsonian Magazine+1 Conclusion The Cuyahoga River fire history serves as a critical reminder of the consequences of industrial pollution and the importance of environmental stewardship. The events surrounding the 1969 fire catalyzed a significant shift in environmental policy in the United States, leading to ongoing efforts to restore and protect the river and its ecosystem. 2 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I’m old enough to remember LA smog. But was closer to the constant brown haze over Western Pennsylvania thanks to the steel mills that abandoned the area in the mid 60s to move to grayer pastures in Gary and Valpo Indiana. I wonder how many then kids who are now in their 60 and 79s suffer from interstitial lung diseases thanks to US Steel and other companies Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Primarily from multiple paper companies along the Cuyahoga that dumped waste chemicals into the river. It dumps into Lake Erie... hence the common "Lake Erie is on fire" quips. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: I’m old enough to remember LA smog. But was closer to the constant brown haze over Western Pennsylvania thanks to the steel mills that abandoned the area in the mid 60s to move to grayer pastures in Gary and Valpo Indiana. I wonder how many then kids who are now in their 60 and 79s suffer from interstitial lung diseases thanks to US Steel and other companies I remember driving to Pittsburgh. As late as the early 70's as you got near town everything got black. FIrst time we flew into LA was about 1974(?). They didn't have jetways at LAX yet. It was SoCal, you just disembarked to the Tarmac. The door of plane opened on the LA air and the ozone and NOx stung your eyes immediately. Edited October 16 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
pfife Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Imagine being a trump fan and also simultaneously requiring others to have 100 accuracy on stuff 2 3 Quote
Screwball Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I saw a clip of Mitch having a fall today, and another with Pelosi getting assisted. Why are these fossils still there? If they had any integrity they would have retired long ago, along with many others. They didn't because they don't have any integrity, not one ounce. We are governed by a bunch of worthless paid off and blackmailed creeps, every last one of them. And if you don't play the game you don't get there. Anyone who believe otherwise has their head firmly stuffed up their ass. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 This is a wild story from start to finish. Another woke politician heading to the sideline…. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 hour ago, Screwball said: I saw a clip of Mitch having a fall today, and another with Pelosi getting assisted. Why are these fossils still there? If they had any integrity they would have retired long ago, along with many others. They didn't because they don't have any integrity, not one ounce. We are governed by a bunch of worthless paid off and blackmailed creeps, every last one of them. And if you don't play the game you don't get there. Anyone who believe otherwise has their head firmly stuffed up their ass. It would appear the one of the first true signs of senility is being convinced you are indispensable. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Nothing to see here, just a really good super fat gambler. Quote
pfife Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Remember when Trump congratulated the state of kansas when the chiefs won If only aoc was that accurate Quote
pfife Posted October 17 Posted October 17 14 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: And… Winning at the casino is disqualifying but bankrupting a casino you own is awesome business acumen 1 1 Quote
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