POLITICS SCHMALITICS

[RatkoVarda]

cannot find the exact quote, but anyone who bends the knee to the Orange Pedo Turd now,

does so because they WANT to, not because they have to

note to politicians, companies, universities, the media - the Orange Pedo Turd is incredibly unpopular with normal humans

[CMRivdogs]

9 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

To quote Ulysses Grant:

"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is gonna do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. 

Go back to your command and try to think what we are going to do ourselves"

I understand the point Leah is making, but the reality is that literally everyone already has this inclination of what Trump will or won't do... Regardless of how bad GOP losses were or weren't last night, people were going to walk away with the same impression of what's to come.

It's more constructive to focus on your game instead of constantly dooming about what Trump's gonna do

I was thinking more of a Dan Campbell type quote, but I'll take Grant. Take the win and move on to the next game

[Motown Bombers]

Mamdani barely won the black vote and lost the Jewish vote. Not a recipe for a national win. 

[oblong]

27 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Mike Johnson ceases to be Speaker at the end of the 118th Congress, and there isn't a Congress until electeds are swore in.

Hakeem Jefferies was not speaker in this photo.

 

[Tigerbomb13]

It’s as if a president with a 67% disapproval rating 9 months into his term just might be toxic

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

This is exciting to see too. Feeding hungry kids, you know the thing Christian conservatives should be doing, is always the right thing to do.

[mtutiger]

10 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Paraphrasing one of my morning newsletters. Republicans have already telegraphed that the Mayor-elect of NYC is the face of the entire Democratic Party.  Mamdani received about one million votes in one of the most liberal cities in America (aside, you mean to tell me there wasn't at least one Republican in that entire city that wanted the job?) The best Trump and his billionaire gang could put up were at best corrupt has been talk show host, given the choice liberals preferred a socialist. Meanwhile two moderate women with national security backgrounds won governorships in two states with a combined total of approximately 3.5 million votes, including a plurality of self described independent voters.

Which branch of the Democratic Party dominated yesterday? 

 

 

I don't know that Mamdani's win was *that* impressive in the grand scheme of things from a numbers perspective, but in his defense, he faced an absolutely nasty campaign and that had every institutional lever imaginable pulled against him. From the millions of elite dollars thrown at him to slanted and, frankly, unfair coverage of his campaign in the New York Times and other media outlets. And Cuomo, the slug that he is, is still a big name that registers with low-info voters and probably earned some votes on name recognition alone.

He's not really my cup of tea, I have my disagreements with him, but in that context, I think his win was solid (if not impressive)

The bigger takeaway for me from him winning along with candidates like Spanberger/Sherrill is that the Democratic Party is a popular front / big tent party and that it's power comes when it is unified. And all three shared a message centered around cost-of-living issues and other issues that voters care about in this moment.

Edited Wednesday at 02:38 PM by mtutiger

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, oblong said:

Hakeem Jefferies was not speaker in this photo.

 

If Mike Johnson doesn't want to be photoed if they lose the House next year, that's his prerogative.

Either way, once the 118th Congress dissolves, the Speaker chair is vacant until one is elected. He's a non-entity here.

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

I never thought I’d be quoting this Joe Walsh

 

 

Oh, I thought you were gonna post   "I go to parties, sometimes til four.  It's hard to leave when you can't find the door"

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motor City Sonics]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

If Mike Johnson doesn't want to be photoed if they lose the House next year, that's his prerogative.

Either way, once the 118th Congress dissolves, the Speaker chair is vacant until one is elected. He's a non-entity here.

That's if they follow the Constitution.     They're gonna suspend it first.   

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said:

That's if they follow the Constitution.     They're gonna suspend it first.   

OK.

I'm sure that will be uncontroversial and free of consequences from an angry public.

[CMRivdogs]

5 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

I don't know that Mamdani's win was *that* impressive in the grand scheme of things from a numbers perspective, but in his defense, he faced an absolutely nasty campaign and that had every institutional lever imaginable pulled against him. From the millions of elite dollars thrown at him to slanted and, frankly, unfair coverage of his campaign in the New York Times and other media outlets. And Cuomo, the slug that he is, is still a big name that registers with low-info voters and probably earned some votes on name recognition alone.

He's not really my cup of tea, I have my disagreements with him, but in that context, I think his win was solid (if not impressive)

The bigger takeaway for me from him winning along with candidates like Spanberger/Sherrill is that the Democratic Party is a popular front / big tent party and that it's power comes when it is unified. And all three shared a message centered around cost-of-living issues and other issues that voters care about in this moment.

That's exactly where I'm coming from. I expect our resident MAGA trolls (when they decide to come out will attempt to make the winner of the NYC race the focus of their arguments

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Tigerbomb13]

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

Democrats have a problem with young men, particularly young hispanic/Latino and white young men. Zohran did not have a problem winning over young men.

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

 

Democrats have a problem with young men, particularly young hispanic/Latino and white young men. Zohran did not have a problem winning over young men.

He only had a problem winning over blacks and Jews which is the base of the Democratic Party. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

He only had a problem winning over blacks and Jews which is the base of the Democratic Party. 

Looks like he won the black vote over Cuomo by a 26 point margin. It isn't as if black voters went Republican and voted for Sliwa or stayed home. Even black voters that went for Cuomo are still going to vote Democratic.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

[Motown Bombers]

You think 55% is good?

[Mr.TaterSalad]

This is exit polling data FYI.

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Looks like he won the black vote over Cuomo by a 26 point margin. It isn't as if black voters went Republican and voted for Sliwa or stayed home. Even black voters that went for Cuomo are still going to vote Democratic.

It's true, he gained quite a bit of ground with Black and Hispanic voters between the first and second round.

With Cuomo's numbers, it's worth remembering that he did relatively successful job drawing off GOP voters (Sliwa dropped from around 28% in 2021 to 8% this year).... this would imply that the group he was most successful with yesterday was *checks notes* Republicans lol

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

You think 55% is good?

When you factor in that Cuomo's black voters are still largely Democratic voters who are going to pull the lever for Democrats, I don't see it as this big problem as you do. Again, it's not as if these voters went Republican and voted for Sliwa. Cuomo, even though he ran as an independent, is still a Democrat. Voters who voted for him largely knew this, black voters or otherwise.

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

When you factor in that Cuomo's black voters are still largely Democratic voters who are going to pull the lever for Democrats, I don't see it as this big problem as you do. Again, it's not as if these voters went Republican and voted for Sliwa. Cuomo, even though he ran as an independent, is still a Democrat. Voters who voted for him largely knew this, black voters or otherwise.

It’s not a problem for New York City but leftist are learning the wrong lessons from this election. He only got 50% of the vote. He barely got a majority. 

[oblong]

29 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

If Mike Johnson doesn't want to be photoed if they lose the House next year, that's his prerogative.

Either way, once the 118th Congress dissolves, the Speaker chair is vacant until one is elected. He's a non-entity here.

You are arguing against a point I never made.