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[Mr.TaterSalad]

Has he commented on all the welfare fraud in blood red Mississippi by white guy Ted DiBiasie Jr and Brett Farve?

[oblong]

Black and gay people doing bad stuff is better than viagra for them.  

[GalagaGuy]

On 1/5/2026 at 11:33 AM, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

 

Yeah, you cultists really care about fraud.  

 

[Tigeraholic1]

3 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Yeah, you cultists really care about fraud.  

 

I had no idea Duran worked for the government.

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Yeah, you cultists really care about fraud.  

 

you know the other difference here? Tim Walz is taking the fall for what went wrong on his watch. When was the last time Trump or any of his people took responsibility for anything they ****ed up?

[GalagaGuy]

This is a real picture of Trump from today.  

 

[CMRivdogs]

Worth the time to read, I'll quote some key parts, there is enough blame to spread around 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-real-story-behind-the-minnesota-welfare-fraud-scandal?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=87281&post_id=183739297&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=45wcm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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The American system works best when there are safeguards in place to prevent fraud and abuse. In case you haven’t noticed, the Trump administration has adopted precisely the opposite approach since taking office—cutting personnel who guard against fraud rather than adding them, and weakening internal safeguards rather than strengthening them.

“Many of the cuts the Trump administration has made have been to reduce parts of the government that take on fraud,” Moynihan said. “A huge chunk of the CFPB [the financial watchdog agency that Trump has been trying to dismantle] was centered on protecting consumers against fraud. Many of the IRS cuts went towards identifying parts of the IRS that were addressing people who were engaged in tax cheating.”

Last I checked Trump worked for the government, or is supposed to when not eating his Mac Cheesburger,Fish sandwich, double fry combo and overdosing on aspirin 

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Trump has also fired or demoted more than twenty of the federal government’s inspectors general, which, combined with some resignations, left more than three-quarters of the positions vacant as of October, according to the Partnership for Public Service. The inspectors general are the federal government’s vanguard against malfeasance. Trump’s hostility to them dates back to his first term, when a whistleblower report to one of the inspectors general led eventually to his first impeachment. (Trump fired him too.)

There’s one other notable way the Trump administration is enabling fraud, rather than combating it: through pardons. Going back to his first term, Trump “has granted pardons or commutations to at least 68 people convicted of fraud crimes or of interfering with fraud investigations,” according to a review of public records by KFF Health News. That includes the 2020 commutation for a nursing-home provider found guilty of scheming to defraud Medicare of more than $1 billion.

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TRUMP’S GUTTING OF FRAUD SAFEGUARDS and his pardoning of convicted fraudsters doesn’t explain what happened in Minnesota. But it’s likely to enable more and bigger scams in the future, setting off what could be a vicious cycle in which stories of grift undermine confidence in public programs, creating political support for yet more cuts.

“If someone takes from this controversy that we have to stop offering services,” Pollack said, “you’re just compounding the harm that the initial people who committed the fraud already perpetrated against the community.”

A version of that is playing out right now. Trump administration officials have said they intend to freeze all federal childcare funding to five states where they believe fraud is rampant.

They have yet to provide evidence of such widespread scams—which seems important given that past audits indicate, as childcare expert Elliot Haspel noted this week, that more than 96 percent of federal childcare spending is valid. Nor have they explained why they are singling out those five blue states with Democratic officials in charge, when fraudulent spending in red states is plenty easy to find.4

Of course, these people also suffer the most when graft in public programs is widespread. That’s one of the many ironies of the way the Trump administration and its allies have used the scandal to attack Minnesota’s Somalis: They are victims too, because every dollar that a grifter pocketed is a dollar that needy members of their community didn’t get.

It’s one more reason why you don’t have to believe all the MAGA agitprop to demand answers on what went wrong here—and why you don’t have to share Trump’s prejudices to insist on changes that will prevent such failures in the future.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

15 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

you know the other difference here? Tim Walz is taking the fall for what went wrong on his watch. When was the last time Trump or any of his people took responsibility for anything they ****ed up?

Walz created the policy that was used to exploit and lead to massive corruption. He is stewing in his own juices. 

[oblong]

You voted for corruption so your concern here is pretty weak sauce

 

[pfife]

Literally bragged about voting for a guy with 34 felony fraud convictions 

[Shades of Deivi Cruz]

7 minutes ago, pfife said:

Literally bragged about voting for a guy with 34 felony fraud convictions 

Criminal activity for me, but not for thee.

[Tigerbomb13]

16 minutes ago, pfife said:

Literally bragged about voting for a guy with 34 felony fraud convictions 

It’s not just allowed if you’re a red hat, it’s encouraged. 

[Tigeraholic1]

When the left gets caught grifting they point the at the other side. 

[Tigerbomb13]

When the right gets caught grifting, they get pardons 

[Tigerbomb13]

Can Kari be the gift that keeps on giving?

[CMRivdogs]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

When the left gets caught grifting they point the at the other side. 

You seem to be the champ in point fingers when R-Grifters are caught. 

 

 

if i remember correctly you turned heel when a black woman was nominated for president..

[Tigeraholic1]

7 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

You seem to be the champ in point fingers when R-Grifters are caught. 

 

 

if i remember correctly you turned heel when a black woman was nominated for president..

I seem to remember her never being actually nominated. More like being appointed. If I remember correctly. 

[CMRivdogs]

1 minute ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I seem to remember her never being actually nominated. More like being appointed. If I remember correctly. 

Show me where i n the DNC Rules or the RNC rules for that matter that there needs to be a nominating convention

 

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

When the left gets caught grifting they point the at the other side. 

Note that Walz himself is NOT accused of grifting anything , he is accused of running a poorly administered program. There is an ocean of ethical distance between the two situations.

Edited yesterday at 04:32 PM by gehringer_2

[oblong]

38 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Show me where i n the DNC Rules or the RNC rules for that matter that there needs to be a nominating convention

 

The parties decide their nominee.  There's no moral or ethical or legal requirement for a certain process to be followed other than each party's rules.  People just wanted an excuse to create some kind of "scandal" to give themselves cover to not support her. 

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Show me where i n the DNC Rules or the RNC rules for that matter that there needs to be a nominating convention

 

She ended up losing and I am pretty sure the process the dems took hurt her chances of winning. 

[LaceyLou]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Show me where i n the DNC Rules or the RNC rules for that matter that there needs to be a nominating convention

 

Plus anyone who suddenly is a big supporter of Drumpf because of this-probably wasn't really a supporter of Biden or Democratic policies in general. 

[gehringer_2]

41 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

She ended up losing and I am pretty sure the process the dems took hurt her chances of winning. 

I think this is true, but not because of the way she was nominated per se, but because  she didn't have the benefit all the things she would have learned and the support she would have developed as a candidate running a primary campaign. And of course you never know, a stronger candidate might have emerged, defeated her and then been stronger against Trump. The reason the parties started doing primaries was to make sure the people they nominated actually had voter appeal. Of course the primary process today is pretty screwed up in term of the ability to actually do that, but it was the theory.

For the Dems the die was cast in 2019/2020 when Biden picked a candidate for VP who had not been a very successful campaigner and then compounded it by never setting her up as a virtual co-president so she could easily succeed him after one term. 

Edited yesterday at 06:50 PM by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

21 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Worth the time to read, I'll quote some key parts, there is enough blame to spread around 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-real-story-behind-the-minnesota-welfare-fraud-scandal?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=87281&post_id=183739297&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=45wcm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Last I checked Trump worked for the government, or is supposed to when not eating his Mac Cheesburger,Fish sandwich, double fry combo and overdosing on aspirin 

 

I'm assuming they are gutting the apparatus that prevent and prosecute fraud because they want their designated enemies to be punished for fraud based only on accusation and not at all on evidence. More bluntly, they want only their own say-so to stand as the actionable evidence of fraud, and by having an actual apparatus in place designed to ferret out actual fraud, they would have to use it to prove fraud, which would frequently backfire on them, and they can't allow that to happen. Thus, they are pushing for a system where their mere accusation is both de facto and de jure evidence.

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I seem to remember her never being actually nominated. More like being appointed. If I remember correctly. 

What are you talking about? She was nominated at the convention in Milwaukee. It was in all the papers.