04/26/2026 1:40p EDT Detroit Tigers at Cincinnati Reds

[monkeytargets39]

1 minute ago, SeattleMike said:

He seemed to be the Tiger most victimized by egregiously bad calls last year. Haven't noticed that much this year, but you make a good point that he should benefit more than others from the ABS. 

A lot of times last year it seemed like there’d be a bad strike call against him earlier in an AB that would put him in an 0-1/0-2/1-2 count and ruin his at bat just as much as bad third strike calls.

[Tigermojo]

[gehringer_2]

Good win

[lordstanley]

Tigers win! Back in a 1st place tie with Cleveland. 

[Sports_Freak]

Tigers brought up Hanifee? Who went down?

[4hzglory]

4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Tigers brought up Hanifee? Who went down?

Seabold to the IL

[IdahoBert]

TIGERS WIN

[IdahoBert]

To be honest, I slept through the last half of this game.

I got up at 4:00 AM MDT to watch the Liège-Bastogne-Liège men’s cycling race on Peacock, then hiked 3 miles - much of it uphill in the Boise Foothills at the Idaho Botanical Garden - then crashed and fell asleep when the game was knotted at 2–2 in the 4th looking more like the same old same old I’d already seen the first two games  

Totally missed all the excitement. 

[NorthWoods]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

A daily Tork Bomb!!

For the rest of the season!!

[buddha]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

To be honest, I slept through the last half of this game.

I got up at 4:00 AM MDT to watch the Liège-Bastogne-Liège men’s cycling race on Peacock, then hiked 3 miles - much of it uphill in the Boise Foothills at the Idaho Botanical Garden - then crashed and fell asleep when the game was knotted at 2–2 in the 4th looking more like the same old same old I’d already seen the first two games  

Totally missed all the excitement. 

tadej never loses.  gets a little boring.

[IdahoBert]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

tadej never loses.  gets a little boring.

I agree. The real reason I watched this race was for Remco, who is problematic but fun, and for Paul Seixas who is freaking astonishing.

I was amazed when he was able to keep up with Tadej for as long as he did and really thought he might do it but the space alien is usually unbeatable, but seeing Wout sprint past him in Paris-Roubaix is one of the most glorious moments for me as a cycling fan because he’s my favorite and I absolutely love the guy.

Simon Yates winning the Giro last year was awesome too.

[IdahoBert]

Finally, watching this game with the four run outburst in the seventh, there are a lot of Tigers fans in the ballpark which is pretty exciting. The sound and the roar of the crowd is awesome. 

[TigerNation]

BTW, Tigers offense was second behind only the Dodgers in xwOBA entering today.

[IdahoBert]

Good the guys finally have a day off. The series in Atlanta is going to be a real test. The Braves are hot, so hopefully the pitching can stand up to their offensive prowess and the Tigers’ hitting can escalate.

 

[diaspora04]

I suspect that Torkelson has met his slumpbuster.

[IdahoBert]

The Atlanta Braves are also the first team in baseball to reach 20 wins this year. 

[buddha]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

I agree. The real reason I watched this race was for Remco, who is problematic but fun, and for Paul Seixas who is freaking astonishing.

I was amazed when he was able to keep up with Tadej for as long as he did and really thought he might do it but the space alien is usually unbeatable, but seeing Wout sprint past him in Paris-Roubaix is one of the most glorious moments for me as a cycling fan because he’s my favorite and I absolutely love the guy.

Simon Yates winning the Giro last year was awesome too.

always liked wout.  wears his heart on his sleeve.

seixas is the biggest thing in france outside of their rugby/soccer teams.  i assume he's doing the tour this year, but maybe they let him to the vuelta or giro instead so he has a chance to win.

vingegaard is done.  if seixas isnt up to it, the tour will be a foregone conclusion for tadej this year.

[IdahoBert]

16 minutes ago, buddha said:

always liked wout.  wears his heart on his sleeve.

seixas is the biggest thing in france outside of their rugby/soccer teams.  i assume he's doing the tour this year, but maybe they let him to the vuelta or giro instead so he has a chance to win.

vingegaard is done.  if seixas isnt up to it, the tour will be a foregone conclusion for tadej this year.

I’ve noticed that Jonas hasn’t really tried to go head to head with Tadej this year. I don’t think he will ever beat Tadej again. I’m expecting Jonas to go for early retirement before too long. I’m not sure his heart is really in it anymore. 

[IdahoBert]

Getting back to baseball, for the series in Atlanta, the starting pitching is Mize, then Skubal, and finally Framber. 

[romad1]

12 hours ago, diaspora04 said:

I suspect that Torkelson has met his slumpbuster.

She's got a heart of gold tho. 

[IdahoBert]

I hope this day off doesn’t disrupt Torkelson’s Mojo. Maybe he’ll come out of the gate so rested he’ll hit three home runs the first game in Atlanta. 😃

[chasfh]

16 hours ago, TigerNation said:

BTW, Tigers offense was second behind only the Dodgers in xwOBA entering today.

I seem to remember this happened last year, too, where our wOBA fell well short of our xwOBA. So I did a little digging and found something that kind of startled me.

xwOBA—the expected wOBA a player or team should achieve given quality of contact factors such as exit velo and launch angle—has been around as a stat since 2015, so I went to FanGraphs and downloaded the full season data by team since then—eleven seasons, 30 teams each season, 330 data points—and compared their xwOBAs to their actual wOBAs across time. I created a separate column subtracting expected from actual to see whether the team's wOBA was under their xwOBA, or over it, and counted how many of the eleven seasons each team either underachieved their xwOBA, or else overacheieved it.

Here are the results, ranked by worst average underachievement for the past 11 years. Spoiler alert: the Tigers are historically the very worst at overachieving their xwOBA with a better wOBA:

Team	Under	Over	Ave Diff	MaxUnder	MaxOver
DET	10	1	-.0070	-.015	.000
OAK	9	1	-.0069	-.013	.006
KCR	9	2	-.0069	-.015	.005
SEA	9	2	-.0054	-.010	.005
PIT	8	3	-.0054	-.019	.006
LAA	10	1	-.0052	-.011	.004
STL	8	3	-.0046	-.014	.005
ATL	8	3	-.0034	-.012	.009
NYY	6	5	-.0034	-.020	.009
TEX	6	5	-.0024	-.016	.006
MIA	6	5	-.0024	-.011	.008
CLE	5	6	-.0020	-.017	.005
LAD	8	3	-.0019	-.011	.004
SFG	8	3	-.0019	-.011	.007
WSN	7	4	-.0015	-.013	.006
SDP	6	5	-.0014	-.016	.008
TOR	7	4	-.0011	-.007	.010
NYM	5	6	-.0008	-.013	.015
MIN	5	6	-.0008	-.017	.009
BAL	5	6	.0007	-.007	.019
CHW	4	7	.0009	-.017	.010
CHC	3	8	.0012	-.010	.009
PHI	4	7	.0012	-.006	.007
MIL	4	7	.0030	-.017	.014
ARI	2	9	.0030	-.009	.009
HOU	6	5	.0037	-.004	.016
CIN	2	9	.0043	-.017	.012
TBR	2	9	.0050	-.006	.013
BOS	3	8	.0070	-.001	.022
COL	0	11	.0139	.001	.027
ATH	0	1	.0144	.014	.014

(Read this table as: DET underachieved their xwOBA ten of eleven seasons and overachieved in one; the average difference for DET is -.007, or .007 lower wOBA than xwOBA; the maximum underachievement for DET was minus .015, and the maximum overachievement was .000.)

In ten of eleven years, The Tigers' wOBA underachieved their xwOBA, and suffered the highest average underachievement of any of the 30 franchises. Only one other team, the Angels, experienced 10 out of 11 underachievements, but no other team's maximum overachievement was so low that it rounds down to zero at three digits, which itself is only a hair from an eleventh underachievement.

This consistent underachievement of wOBA versus xwOBA is not something we can pin on Harris, because this happened not only for Harris teams, but for Avila teams, and for the Dombrowski team in 2015 (which, to be fair, had the sole overachivement of the eleven Tiger squads measured).

Given this, and also given how persistent underachievers like OAK and SEA and LAA tend to play in tough-to-hit ballaprks while consistent overachievers like COL and BOS and CIN play in easy-to-hit ballparks, I'm given to hypothesizing that the xwOBA stat itself may not have sufficiently ironed ballpark factors out of the reported number.