Sports_Freak Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: So starters should only come out after the get knocked around? Relievers should keep pitching until they get knocked around? This game is on Finnegan, full stop! Whatever...Tigers lost and Hinch is totally blameless. Better? Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said: Whatever...Tigers lost and Hinch is totally blameless. Better? Who pitched the 8th and didn't record an out, Hinch or Finnegan? If you can prove the Tigers win the game if Montero is left in until he hits 100 pitches, then you can blame Hinch for pulling him. Quote
Tenacious D Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Colt has 0 HR’s and 6 RBI’s through almost 1/4 of the season. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago When you have to resort to having Zack Short on your roster - your team is not good. But we have 10 SS prospects, but none of them are ready. My whole adult life the Tigers were weak on position prospects and loaded with potential MLB pitchers. Total opposite now. Loads of position guys and few pitchers close to being ready. And the most frustrating part of it is that they wasted a VERY good start tonight. It's happened way too often already this year. But............always remember, we're in the AL Central. You could win this with 80-84 wins. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Whatever...Tigers lost and Hinch is totally blameless. Better? Bad BPs make every manager look bad - damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you are losing ballgames in your BP, blame your GM, or just bad injury luck, or both. Edited 7 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I think I'd rather see McKinstry in the OF than Perez. Wenceel reminds me of Raburn a little bit in that there is no lack of athletic talent but he just botches too high a proportion of plays just out of the blue. It would also be nice if Riley could figure out a way throw from the OF. If wasn't a factor today but he has to be one of the worst OF arms in the AL. Do I recall there is some injury history there that makes that a lost cause maybe? Riley makes superman catches but has a noodle arm. And yes, Vierling or Zach in RF over Perez...once we find a real CF. But our real problem is our BP. Game after game...good starting pitching and late blown leads. Montero was at 71 pitches...he had a bit of a trouble in the 6th, but leave him in. The worst that could happen is we lose. How did it turn out? We lost ...Montero probably could have thrown a 95 pitch complete game. Ugh... Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Bad BPs make every manager look bad - damned if you do, damned if you don't. If are losing ballgames in your BP, blame your GM, or just bad injury luck, or both. Well...Finnengan did have an ERA of under 1. Once Montero was taken out, it was the right call. A 2 inning save. Unless he was planning on using Jansen for the 9th. Madness.... Edited 7 hours ago by Sports_Freak Quote
Tigermojo Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Game 40 tomorrow. I don't think Sparky would be impressed. 1 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Colt has 0 HR’s and 6 RBI’s through almost 1/4 of the season. Maybe if he’d play instead of pinch hitting all the time Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: Who pitched the 8th and didn't record an out, Hinch or Finnegan? If you can prove the Tigers win the game if Montero is left in until he hits 100 pitches, then you can blame Hinch for pulling him. As always, you're right. Once again. Amazing. BTW, Tigers lost. Our SP was pulled after 71 pitches of 1 run ball. Genius move...Hinch looks like a moron. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Colt has 0 HR’s and 6 RBI’s through almost 1/4 of the season. that contract is looking a little less favorable for the Tigers this season.Definitely counter expectation that a player that should be developing more power at this point in his career has seen his ISO go basically to zero. Superficially, one would argue that much like Riley's shift last season to the super uppercut, Colt's shift this season to the super short approach has been an over compensation. Last season Riley did hit more HR's but became a worse hitter and is having to fight back from that now. Colt has gotten his AVG and OBP up but so far at too high a cost in ISO. Hopefully Keith can make an in season adjustment to get to a better compromise instead of this being his MO for the whole season. Edited 7 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
Tiger337 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: Game 40 tomorrow. I don't think Sparky would be impressed. Didn't he say that in 1987 when they got off to a slow start? I am not sure, but they were were 19-21 after 40 games that year. However, they had begun to heat up by game 40 whereas this team appears to be going nowhere until they do a whole lot of healling. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: As always, you're right. Once again. Amazing. BTW, Tigers lost. Our SP was pulled after 71 pitches of 1 run ball. Genius move...Hinch looks like a moron. You're the one saying you know the outcome to something that didn't happen and you're calling someone else a moron. Bold move, Cotton. Quote
motownblues Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago On top of bullpen woes, this is a terrible clutch hitting team. Quote
Tenacious D Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, motownblues said: On top of bullpen woes, this is a terrible clutch hitting team. And somehow we’re still in contention. Quote
IdahoBert Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Damn, I don’t want to hate this team. But right now I think I’d rather watch two winos fighting over a bottle of that blueMD 20/20 in an alley. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: Damn, I don’t want to hate this team. But right now I think I’d rather watch two winos fighting over a bottle of that blueMD 20/20 in an alley. We may be able to hold out until we get mize, melton, and skubal back but what's going to help this BP? Hard not to suspect Vest is on his way to TJ. Melton maybe - but I have been assuming they are going to need Melton in the rotation - at least until Skubal gets back. So best case, Flaherty straightens out (he wasn't horrible last time out), the rotation settles at Mize, Flaherty, Valdez, Montero, Mleton, then eventually Skubal and Melton can go to the BP, but I'd really like to see another BP arm from somewhere. Now all we need is for Mize and Melton to actually get back and the rest to happen before they end up too far back to catch up. Edited 6 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Why can't McKinstry play shortstop ? Do we NEED Short ? I say it's time to make some position decisions and let them play. Tork-Lee-McStinky- McGonigle -Dingler -IF , Greene-Verling-Carpenter(gulp) OF and Keith DH. Play them everyday until injured players return. There isn't any now or future with Perez - Jones or Short. We really miss Meadows and Baez for defense. Until then just put the best defenders in the field and let Carpenter-Keith and Lee play everyday . But only Carpenter in RF and Keith only DH. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 56 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: You're the one saying you know the outcome to something that didn't happen and you're calling someone else a moron. Bold move, Cotton. Every loss is always Hinch's fault. Quote
SeattleMike Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Didn't he say that in 1987 when they got off to a slow start? I am not sure, but they were were 19-21 after 40 games that year. However, they had begun to heat up by game 40 whereas this team appears to be going nowhere until they do a whole lot of healling. No fanbase should be more dismissive of this silly canard than Tiger fans, if they were paying any attention at all to the last two seasons. Quote
IdahoBert Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, SeattleMike said: No fanbase should be more dismissive of this silly canard than Tiger fans, if they were paying any attention at all to the last two seasons. Ain’t that the truth. Quote
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