Sports_Freak Posted yesterday at 02:26 PM Posted yesterday at 02:26 PM 1 minute ago, Edman85 said: Four pitchers coming back from injury in the next week, so four pitchers will be sent down. You think JV will be activated? He still looked kinda shaky. Skubal and Mize...JV....but who's the 4th? Quote
Sports_Freak Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM 3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: You think JV will be activated? He still looked kinda shaky. Skubal and Mize...JV....but who's the 4th? Edit...oh...Jansen. It looks like he struggled in his rehab too. IDK about those 2 guys.. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM 35 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Brieske and Hanifee have had some success in the past. I doubt they are favorites currently. Brieske was never more than a shooting star. I see Asia in his future. Quote
Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 02:39 PM Posted yesterday at 02:39 PM 12 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Hanifee is effective at times. Its the inconsistency that is a head scratcher. I think he'll probably stick but who goes down? De Jesus? Sommers? I still think they may send Madden down to stretch him out. I hope they keep Madden. They need all the bullpen help they can get and Montero and Madden can give them multiple inning stints. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM Skubal and Casey are definitely coming back this weekend. It might be another week to get back Jansen, assuming not injury setback, which might "happen" if he can't get back on the horse. If Verlander ever does make his way to Detroit, it will be as a sort of legacy mascot, if he will agree to that, which he might not. Either way, I have my doubts as to whether he is ever going to go between the lines for us anymore. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 02:44 PM Posted yesterday at 02:44 PM If we had to send down four pitchers to bring up three starters and a reliever, man, I'm not 100% certain who it would be. Brieske and Hanifee, for sure. Madden, I guess, because he has three options left. The fourth? That's a tough call, but I would probably go Montero, so he could get regular trigger time in Toledo. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted yesterday at 03:26 PM Posted yesterday at 03:26 PM 49 minutes ago, chasfh said: Brieske was never more than a shooting star. I see Asia in his future. I agree like the Thailand league or maybe Laos. 1 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: I hope they keep Madden. They need all the bullpen help they can get and Montero and Madden can give them multiple inning stints. Yeah I’d honestly rather have the multi inning guys right now rather than the one-inning wildcards like Brieske. Madden and Montero have at least been pretty consistently solid. Edited yesterday at 04:10 PM by monkeytargets39 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted yesterday at 04:10 PM Posted yesterday at 04:10 PM 1 hour ago, chasfh said: If we had to send down four pitchers to bring up three starters and a reliever, man, I'm not 100% certain who it would be. Brieske and Hanifee, for sure. Madden, I guess, because he has three options left. The fourth? That's a tough call, but I would probably go Montero, so he could get regular trigger time in Toledo. Honestly…..Holton can go down. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted yesterday at 04:18 PM Posted yesterday at 04:18 PM Give me this as a pitching staff in the near future: Skubal/Valdez/Mize/Flaherty/Melton Madden/Montero/Anderson/De Jesus/Sommers/Jansen/Finnegan/Vest Holton and Hanifee can go to Toledo and work some stuff out. Holton can come back if Sommers struggles. Verlander can “have soreness” and go to the 60-day DL and maybe come back when rosters expand to finish out his career. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 04:32 PM Posted yesterday at 04:32 PM 17 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Honestly…..Holton can go down. Holton's been good enough the past five appearances, one run in three innings, six hits but a .545 BABIP, 2.77 FIP and 3.74 xFIP during that time. And he's left-handed, so that helps him. I don't think he's going anywhere quite yet. 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 5 hours ago, chasfh said: Brieske was never more than a shooting star. I see Asia in his future. IIRC Brieske flashed a big fast ball when he first came up, but I'm not sure that's still there. He was hitting 96 today but I thought I remember him having more. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 11 hours ago, chasfh said: Holton's been good enough the past five appearances, one run in three innings, six hits but a .545 BABIP, 2.77 FIP and 3.74 xFIP during that time. And he's left-handed, so that helps him. I don't think he's going anywhere quite yet. His cutter looked sharp today. If 2024 Holton is in there we should try to find him. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 11 hours ago, chasfh said: And he's left-handed, so that helps him. I don't think he's going anywhere quite yet. Certainly not with Cleveland on the program next. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 12 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said: Give me this as a pitching staff in the near future: Skubal/Valdez/Mize/Flaherty/Melton Madden/Montero/Anderson/De Jesus/Sommers/Jansen/Finnegan/Vest Holton and Hanifee can go to Toledo and work some stuff out. Holton can come back if Sommers struggles. Verlander can “have soreness” and go to the 60-day DL and maybe come back when rosters expand to finish out his career. I'd rather have Montero starting than Valdez, but that's not gonna happen. Quote
chasfh Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I'd rather have Montero starting than Valdez, but that's not gonna happen. Valdez has apparently earned the right to try to work past long stretches of bad pitching. I think that would be true of any pitcher who has had enough success to garner a rich long-term contract. They get a far longer leash than a rookie or a journeyman would. Quote
Tiger337 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, chasfh said: Valdez has apparently earned the right to try to work past long stretches of bad pitching. I think that would be true of any pitcher who has had enough success to garner a rich long-term contract. They get a far longer leash than a rookie or a journeyman would. He also has a history of suddenly turning it around and being dominant for a long stretch. I am concerned about his lower k rate, higher bb rate so far this year though. Quote
chasfh Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: He also has a history of suddenly turning it around and being dominant for a long stretch. I am concerned about his lower k rate, higher bb rate so far this year though. Yes, exactly, Valdez has the history, and that's why he gets the leash. Quote
Tigermojo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Valdez had two bad starts, a couple not so good but mostly quality starts. BB and K rates are concerning though. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I’m not gonna go look at stats, but I think you could probably say that K rates are down and BB rates are up for most of the pitchers on the team—particularly relievers. Quote
4hzglory Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: I’m not gonna go look at stats, but I think you could probably say that K rates are down and BB rates are up for most of the pitchers on the team—particularly relievers. Read an article that said Skubal Bb rate is the lowest it’s ever been, Mize’s is his career avg and Mize’s K’s are career high Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: Read an article that said Skubal Bb rate is the lowest it’s ever been, Mize’s is his career avg and Mize’s K’s are career high Those two and probably Montero may be the exceptions. Probably Anderson too. Quote
TigerNation Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 55 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Those two and probably Montero may be the exceptions. Probably Anderson too. Flaherty's walk rate is up, but he has the highest K/9 of his career. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 21 minutes ago Posted 21 minutes ago (edited) 5 hours ago, chasfh said: Yes, exactly, Valdez has the history, and that's why he gets the leash. Easy to be sceptical of Keider because of the low K rate - despite the impressive WHIP near 1.00. Porcello had a year like that in Boston (low BB low H/9) and won a CY but couldn't replicate it. Edited 20 minutes ago by gehringer_2 Quote
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