1984Echoes

murrrdurrred....

If they go on any kind of .500 or better winning streak in their remaining games... let's say they win 6 more games then the other bottom-feeding teams... They're no longer picking top 4 without lottery luck. Say Indiana, OKC, Houston and New Orleans strip themselves down before the deadline... We're in the 6th or 7th spot at that point...

Yeah I was taking that as the Lions don't think Pickett is all that and would be entertaining trade-down offers. If someone jumps up to 1-1 to take Pickett... that does nothing but help out the Lions... (I'm not enamored enough with Pickett to take a Burrows-like leap... not even close...).

Are they desperate for a pass-rusher? If they think it's Hutch or KT and no one is even in the same ballpark it could be a reason to move up... But yeah, I don't see it based on a QB...

Why would they feel the need to jump ahead of Detroit if we are trying to trade down with them?

Yeah... I think it's closer to mid-March that an agreement is made and we lose the first month of the season. The first guess I saw in here was on my birthday, March 14th. Hilariously, that's also the date of my divorce (excellent birthday present!) so... why not... baseball season 2022 "saved" on my birthdate. Book it.

All about the scouting... And some luck in the draft (that your guy falls to you...)

Under-the-radar underrated great comedy.

Yes please.

Those are just Michigan tourists... right?

Get them in Detroit. Need more O.

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I think it would take specific circumstances to release Vatai.. like they had run out of FA money and found a "had to have" FA or something like that. Flowers I think is easier because he hasn't been on the field and they have a shit-ton of candidates to replace him, especially if they draft Hutch or KT. And Flowers doesn't protect Goff or is a part of their running game... I wouldn't have a problem letting go of Vatai, I just think the team is going to be very careful about doing that, so I don't expect it, at least not right away. Like I said, I don't think that decision is made before the end of this year's training camp, at the very earliest...

There you go... pretty self-explanatory... "A.C. Dietsche" Detroit, Mich., 1907. Postcard. You wouldn't know the pricing but it's in Card Price Books (Beckett or Sports Collector's Digest will do... but the big annual book, not the monthly's). David nailed it...

Wicked movie.

The only thing I would say to that is... Don't F up the O-Line. I would wait on Vatai until he gets pushed out the door by better play. And that means at the END of Training Camp next year. What if Evan Brown gets an injury? What if a mid-round draft pick for O-Line depth isn't good enough.. at least yet? Stenberg? I'm going to take a guess here that Vatai doesn't get the boot until the end of training camp next year, at the earliest. I don't think Campbell, or Fraley, or Holmes wants to mess up that line. So Holmes will defer to Fraley/ Campbell's decision on that timing...

I was thinking that was postcard looking but, wanted to see the back just to confirm...

Show the back of the Cobb card.. I may be able to help out...

I'll stop with these... 1936 National Chicle "Fine Pen" premiums of Hank Greenberg, Goose Goslin & Roger Hornsby":

1935 (4-in-1 with Mel Ott) & 1936 (Pepper Martin) Goudeys, 1955 Bowman Ernie Banks and Mickey Mantle, and a 1929 Kashin (R-316) Pie Traynor:

Some pins from 1910 (Sweet Caporal Tobacco) and 1932 (Tattoo Orbit Gum), a couple of Cracker Jack cards from 1915 including Rabbit Maranville, and a few 1933 & 1934 Goudeys:

Some other Tigers odds and ends (the stamp in the middle is a George Burke photo stamp of Jimmie Foxx, obviously not a Tiger), surrounded by two unused World Series tickets from 1968, a W-517 of Lu Blue (another Browns in a Detroit cap!!!), 1955 Topps Doubleheader J.W. Porter and Mickey Cochrane from 1936, R-312 Premium series:

Interestingly, in 1941, because of the war breaking out for the U.S., Play Ball experimented with pure paper cards instead of cardboard (not certain how cardboard was part of the war effort, but, anyways...); very hard to get these paper cards in any decent condition, but I did get a few:

Interesting players from the 1941 Pay Ball set (I have half of the set... working on the rest...); couple Tigers include Barney McCoskey and Tommy Bridges. I don't have any of the "big guns" yet:

Some of the things I collect Tigers are odds and ends... Don't be mad but... I've got a 100 boxes (hyperbole) and I'm not certain which one has my framed Tigers. One of my favorites being a 1935 Wheaties of Mickey Cochrane in which I also placed a 1935 Tigers World Series Ticket in the same frame below Mickey. I framed a 1937 Wheaties Charlie Gehringer that is also quite colorful and beautiful. I also have framed 1939 Goudey Premiums (large 5 x 7 "cards" but more like paper, with "How To" diagrams and explanations of "how to turn a double play" for example, on the back). I have the full "B" set of these premiums (the "A" set is a smaller version with twice as many "cards"...) including Hank Greenberg. I have Charlie Gehringer too, although it's an "A", he's not in the larger "B" set... I do however, have scans of a 1904 T-204 Ramly Tusrkish Cigarettes card (all the rage back then), 1961 and 1962 Topps Stamps of Al Kaline, and a 1964 Auravision Record of Al Kaline. This also I have the complete set of...: Second pic includes a 1960's Detroit Tiger "tattoo" souvenir with original protective sleeve, a 1907 H.M. Taylor postcard of the Detroit Tigers, a 1965 Topps gold embossed Harry Heilmann, a 1940 Play Ball America Harry Heilmann and a 1954 rookie Red Heart Dog Food Harvey Kuenn... (third pic shows the backs of these... PLUS 1962 Post Cereal cards of Norm Cash & Al Kaline... notice Cash's "corked bat" induced .361 BA and 41 HR's...):