RandyMarsh

Yes when Candy first got here he hit well and looked like a promising young player. In fact that offseason notorious Tigers hater Keith Law had him on his list for best players in the MLB under the age of 25 so he isn't entirely a late bloomer. He just had a couple years of bad baseball after his great start.

As Sagnam said you can't take a qb just to take one, also there is no hard and fast rule on when to take a QB. There are different scenarios all throughout the league that have proved to work but imo the worst way to go is drafting a qb when you still have a ton of holes all over the field.

I have no interest in taking any of the QBs with our first pick, take BPA with our 1st and WR with our second. 2023 looks to be shaping up much better for QBs with guys like Bryce Young, CJ Stroud and more. Since we're gonna suck next year too might as well wait and get a better guy while also building up the rest of the team first.

This may be the end of Jon Gruden period as far as any high profile job whether it be in coaching or announcing. I just can't see a team, program or network touching him after the things that he said, atleast any time soon. He'll be in his mid 60s before I think any major entity would even consider hiring him and by that point Gruden may not even want a gig.

Save for a terrible stretch in June where he also spent a week on the bereavement list(I'm gonna assume that isnt a coincidence and pretend that something else was on his mind which explains the struggles) he's been really good his last 200 games. I like to think that he will continue to be a low .800s OPS guy with solid defense for the next 3-5 years so Id be comfortable giving him something like 4/60 or 5/75. If he continues to play the next 2 seasons like he has in the last 200 games he willl certainly be able to get more than 15m a year on the open market but getting that long term security now may be worth it to him to potentially leave some money on the table.

Didn't see the game but it looks like the Lions the lost at the buzzer again. There has to be no bigger guarantee in all of sports than a kicker lining up for a game winning field goal against the Lions. The Goal post might as well be 2 miles wide cause either way you know it's going to be good.

Completely off topic from this but as a scout can you explain whats up with Mize's splitter? Like that graded as a 70 pitch when he was drafted now its non existent. How does something like that happen?

He isn't perfect by any means and I certainly wouldn't take him with our first pick but Desmond Ridder really intrigues me. He misses some throws some time but he is athletic as hell and has a hose for an arm. I wouldn't be opposed to taking him in the 2nd round if he is still there. Prescott, Cousins, Wilson, Derek Carr, Jalen Hurts and Jimmy G are examples of QBs taken outside the 1st in the past 10 years that have turned out solid and in the case of Wilson elite so its not impossible for a guy drafted there to succeed.

I have never met him in person at all but after the debate I talked about above he started "following me" and anytime I would post pics of my dog he would usually like it or comment on it. I always thought that was cool since I was this completely nobody and at first he was writing for a national publication and then was on a big league team.

Lol I only "know" him from Twitter, I first signed up there in 2010 and he was one of my first debates there. At the time he was still working for BP, he correctly said that he didnt see much in Jacob Turner. The homer in me argued sighting minor league stats, as usual I was wrong.

Kevin Goldstein had a chat on fangraphs and somebody asked him about Correa and he said from what he hears the Yankees and Tigers are the favorites. For those that don't know Goldstein, he was high up in the Astros organization up until a couple years ago and I believe he was actually one of their top scouts when Correa was drafted so he may have some inside info.

Aside from 05 the white Sox and Twins always embarrass the Central when they make the playoffs. Since we been in the Central We of course made 2 WS and 4 LCSs, the Royals made multiple World Series and the Indians made a World Series and a few LCS's.

Yeah i definitely feel they have, people love to mock Dusty Baker but here he is again managing in the playoffs.

Fangraphs home page has a link to like 5 different Tigers openings in their analytics department.

The Astros have an impressive organization. They lose Cole, Verlander and Springer, their once top prospect Forrest Whitley flames out, they have all the distraction of trashcan gate yet they keep churning on.

I will say though that you get similar things from NFL and NBA analysts too. In the NFL its all about how soft it got and all the penalties, kinda similar in the NBA too but they also will bitch about all the 3s and lack of traveling calls on legal moves like the stepback and eurostep. Basically having players from bygone eras is just the worst.

So true, Smoltz is the worst, a couple times a game we will start to bring up some good input and breakdowns but then quickly revert back to bitching and moaning. I thought Morris was bad sheesh no way I could handle Smoltz 150+ times a year.

Im almost certain Heyman works with the agents so who knows if there is any truth to this or just him trying to drive the market up but if there is this looks like one more big market team to have to deal with for one of the SSs.

Just as an example the Wild Card round could be Tuesday, Thursday and Friday for one league and Wednesday Friday Sat for the other. If you want to get rid of that travel day that works fine for me as well. You could still start the 2 divisional series that aren't effected by the outcome on Thursday or Friday.

Agree, if you're going to have wild cards you have to put an incentive out there to winning division. I suppose they could do a best of 3 series with just the one travel day in between game 1 and 2. The higher wildcard team would host games 2 and 3 while the lower game 1. This way both teams get atleast one playoff game at home and the money that comes with that. The division round would only be delayed a day or 2 at most in this scenario.

I agree that it definitely puts you behind the 8 ball when building the rest of your team but if you truly get elite qb play it can mask alot of warts on your team and I think that's why so many teams will reach and possibly overpay guys just for that hope.

Jones had that good few month stretch back in 2018 I believe where he looked like he could be a piece going forward, iirc he was at an 800-850 OPS over a couple hundred AB stretch but then he got hurt again and never came close to those numbers after that. Another thing about him is that he was older than some people thought, or atleast I thought anyway. It took him so long to get called up that you didn't realize he was already 26 or 27 at that point.

Apparently the Blue Jays tried to acquire Grossman at the deadline, atleast that's what MLBtraderumors is saying.

I agree as an organization it would be too big of risk to give him a big multi year deal at this point. Like I said me personally I think he is going to be fine and worth a multi year deal but that is just me going by a feeling as a fan which is something you of course can't do as an organization.

I'm probably thinking with my heart and not my head but I truly believe in Verlander and think he could be one of those special players that are productive into their 40s. I know he is coming off of TJ so I would definitely temper my expectations that first year but even if he isn't a frontline ace that doesn't mean he still can't be of value.