Tenacious D

Hard to imagine what Jays fans are going through. They almost won that game a handful of times—they will likely play back the plays that got away for a long time. At least when we lost in ‘06 and ‘12, we played pretty bad throughout. The closest game I can think of as a Tigers fan was Game 163.

I still contend that Mize will be traded. The relationship and confidence seems to have eroded and I doubt they would let him walk without getting anything in return. Once the dust settle and all of the free agent starters are off the market, he should have some trade value. He’d likely be an inexpensive, solid #4 starter on a good team.

Jack and his agent must have PTSD from their non-existent market last offseason. He clearly didn’t want to gamble that the Tigers would give him a QO or how good his prospects would be on the open market. Welcome back—one less spot to sweat. He’s at least a 4th starter and capable of better.

If we’re being honest, our rotation is very uncertain for next year, which may require us to keep Skubal regardless. Flaherty could opt out (we’ll know soon), Olson’s health and dependability are questionable, Mize is a likely trade candidate (they don’t trust him and probably aren’t re-signing him). That leaves Skubal and Melton. I suspect they will sign at least one SP, maybe two, but their track record has been shopping in the reduced aisle.

If he gets the QO, he’s taking it. The draft pick comp hanging over him will kill his market. A $22M one-year deal is not a bad outcome. If he can have a better season in ‘26, he’ll likely end up with a better contract anyway.

See Avila, Alex (or Nokes, Matt)

Please sign one of these assholes

For your shopping convenience. They’re having a BOGO sale on Suarez’ if anyone is interested…

Interesting group—the steroid guys (real and suspects). Is Whitaker in a different designation or grouping? Does Mattingly get some sympathy votes after missing out on another WS title?

Players will not be happy if any truth to this. They won’t want the dues they pay to be squandered.

Pretty impressive for a rookie

LFG!

Swing-off in WS elimination games?

HOSR 420

I’m half Canadian, but find myself pulling for the Dodgers. Admittedly, I’m a bit of a Ohtani fanboy.

So many Jays fans here? Did you guys follow baseball in the 80’s? They were our Lex Luthor. The North never forgets.

F Max. Let’s go Dodgers

Tigers dont have to worry about catching this offseason—Dingler and Rogers are set. Nido is Toledo, Briceno and Liranzo are in the minors this year.

I knew it was his fault.

Agree—middling free agents (I.e., Torres and Flaherty) have historically struggled to get a long term deal with a QO attached. If offered, I suspect both would accept.

7th.

How do we know Boras is negotiating? I’ve read that the Tigers have made offers, which may or not be true, but do we know if Boras has countered with anything?

I don’t think fans want to see him go, but are resigned to it, so would like to see us get players in return. I don’t share this view—I’d prefer going all in for 2026.

Ohtani is insane.

need to liven things up around here: My offseason (I reserve the right to change my mind in 30 minutes): Offer Gleyber Torres a QO. If he declines, take the draft pick and sign Jorge Polanco (32) to 3 yr/$33 million contract. Switch-hitter, made $8M last season. Plays 2B, but likely could play 3B, if needed, to increase his versatility and accommodate McGonigle and/or Keith. Lower OBP than Torres, but more power and position flexibility. Sign Dylan Cease (29) to 4 yr/$100 million contract. Slipped last season, but young enough and solid track record that some Fetterin' would be worth making the commitment. Offer Jack Flaherty a QO, if he declines his option. If he accepts, he’d get a $2M raise, but we’d only be committed to one season with him. Of course, if he passes, take the draft pick compensation. Trade Parker Meadows and Justin-Henry Malloy to the Chicago White Sox for CF Luis Robert. Still only 28, with team options through ’27 season, I’d roll the dice that he can get closer to his previous ’23 performance. Meadows and Malloy are both expendable in this situation, but still have upside, youth, and affordability to be attractive to a rebuilding team like the White Sux. Re-sign Kyle Finnegan and go after one of Ryan Helsey, Robert Suarez or Edwin Diaz for the bullpen, to combine with Will Vest. Roll the dice that some combination of Holton, Hurter, Montero, Foley, Lee, Lange can fill in the gaps. Instead of going the free agent route, I could see Harris surrendering some prospects for relief targets with swing and miss who are controllable for a few seasons. Consider trading Casey Mize to the Mets (or any other team) for prospects, if Flaherty comes back. The Mets need SP, and I don’t see the Tigers signing Mize after next season. I think it would be a mistake to not capitalize on the season he just put up. (None of these acquisitions would preclude the Tigers financially rom re-signing Skubal, if that was an opportunity.) The Lineup: SS McGonigle CF Robert LF Greene 1B Tork RF Carpenter 2B Polanco 3B Keith C Dingler DH Baez/McKinstry Rotation: Skubal Cease Flaherty (or Mize) Olson Melton Bullpen: Holton Montero Hurter Foley/Lange Finnegan Vest Diaz, Suarez or Helsey