buddha

i think your overall point was valid. the lions have upgraded their talent. more imoortantly, they greatly uograded their management talent.

bump.

always have to have those who will be the complete homer and praise whatever move the lions make, but then if the team fails will say they knew it all along because they said they would win 5-7 games back in june.

in 2000 the lions were 9-6 and only needed to beat a 4 win bears team with cade mcnown at qb to clinch a playoff berth. at home. first, lions fans knew because the game was not sold out. second, what we all knew would happen did happen as the lions lost to the bears on a last second 50+ yard field goal and they were out of the playoffs. after the game, wcf cleaned house and hired matt millen to direct the franchise. we spent the next 20 years wandering in the wilderness that was bad even by lions standards. so let us not assume that this team is beating anyone until it actually does. /oldmanrant

not to be debbie downer cause i'm now invested in this team and it pains me to think they might not make the playoffs but, lets think about this win streak: beat the pack in a game they were outgained and only won because of 3 rodgers ints in the red zone. beat the bears on a fluke because justin fields is a great rb playing qb. lost to the bills. gave up justin jefferson's greatest day ever and almost 400 yards passing to kurt effing cousins. gave up zach wilson's best day as a pro and over 300 yards passing. this passing defense has gone back to being an abomination. now, is that because they are overly concerned with stopping the run and making teams one dimensional? could be. is that one dimension destroying the lions poor secondary? yes, yes it is. the bears and panthers might not be able to take advantage of it, but the pack might. and whomever they play on the road in the playoffs might too. that said, if THIS team is in the playoffs, who cares? and if they make it, im writing in dan campbell for mayor of chicago. cause only the power of DC can end this crime wave....

michigan has been so good this year with a 5* qb, a 5* qb, and a top 4* rb. when they get those guys in this recruiting class, let me know. mopping up on "sleeper" 3*s and low 4* decommits doesnt move the needle for this team. bringing in portal guys to cover up recruiting deficiencies and portal transfers is one thing, but expecting to be at the top of the big ten moving forward? nyah bro. you need 5* talent at the key positions if you want to play with the big boys. jj and edwards give you that. and you need to replenish those stocks asap. btw, dante moore left oregon before playing a down. off to ucla to collect their nil money before moving on.

100% rooting for green bay.

goff? who would goff start for in this league? no: packers, bears, vikings, eagles cowboys, bucs, rams, cardinals, bills, dolphins, bengals, ravens, browns, jaguars, chiefs, chargers, and broncos. to me, the lions starters on 20 other teams are sewell, decker, ragnow, jackson, st. brown, swift. and that's it. hutch might be a starter because of draft position but not production. no lions secondary member starts for 20 teams in the league. okudah MAYBE. nobody else is close. mcneill? i dont know enough about dt production to say. so maybe? i think ben johnson would be an upgrade to OC for more than 20 teams.

it seemed like seider was on the ice for the entire game.

anyone with any knowledge of lions history (or league history) should be wary of this team winning 2 of 3 on the road to clinch a playoff spot.

game threads are places where people vent. some people have schticks they feel the need to perpetrate every game. others have obnoxious shit they feel the need to post every single day. such is the internet.

other fans think of the lions like you think of the panthers or the falcons. nice story that you pay attention to peripherally maybe, but you dont really care.

their next game is also against a team in the playoff chase, on the road.

come on now, the niners and cowboys are favorites and the vikes are likely a slight favorite too.

omg raiders!!!!!

i think he wants the challenge, thats why he wanted the vikes job.

cause the guy who hired urban in jax is not a very good owner.

people might be lions-curious, but that does not make them a national team or even a popular team. if the lions start to win, they will become popular very quickly, but they arent there yet. tiers: truly national teams: cowboys, packers. second tier national teams: steelers, bears, giants, niners, raiders, chiefs, broncos. third tier recent history makes them national draws teams: pats, whatever team tom brady plays for, bills the lions will need a few years of sustained success to reach tier 3.

that's cause it was thanksgiving and the only game on tv. the dallas game had much higher ratings. what teams do you think are national teams?

the lions are not a national team. if they get two, it will likely be green bay and kansas city. or maybe an nfc east team. it wont be because of detroit. the last time i can think of the lions being any sort of draw was when they had barry sanders. when barry was there they had two mnf games in the same season 3 times, and even then it was towards the end of barry's career.

monday night football has been around for 52 years. in that time, the lions have had two mnf games in the same season 8 times, and only once since 2000. 3 of their last 4 have been against green bay.

if the lions get a mnf game, its because they are matched against a popular team like the packers or bears or pats. like i said, they have the afc west next year so they have a shot because teams like the chiefs, raiders, and broncos are national teams.

honestly, i dont know why he isnt snapped up by an nfl team. he's taken a team to the super bowl, he's taken michigan from the dregs to back to back big ten titles, the dude is a great coach. but he's bot young anymore so nfl teams ignore him. i dont get it.

probably not. but they have the afc west next year, so maybe you get a lions-chiefs game to go with a lions-packers game?

you might add the bucs to that list too. maybe the chargers.