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what bolded part? you dont know what illitch told him he could offer. we know he wanted to be the highest paid ss in baseball. the twins made that happen and the tigers didnt. that's what we actually know.
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you dont know what illitch said about the contract money. neither do i. i said baez was an ok signing but i wanted correa (or seager) because he's a much better player. beaz would - at the very least - help with their team defense. i did not expect baez to be this bad (although i did expect him to be 220/290/440ish). i think baez will get better at some point. i dont like the idea of paying baez for his decline years but understand that's what is necessary to sign a player.
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i would say avila did a great job of getting the best ss on the market. baez was an ok consolation prize, i guess, but he's the inferior player and he's older. on the plus side, he didnt cost as much, but i dont really care about that. i guarantee one thing: whatever i would have said, you would argue against it for the next ten pages of posts. so go ahead: your move.
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even more amazing is that the guy in charge of that farm system was promoted.
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they failed to get him. he was the best player available and they failed to make him an offer he would accept and/or simply failed to sign him. instead they signed javy baez, who has been terrible. why do you consider this an example of avila doing a good job?
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because one offer locks him in at that low price for a decade and the other lets him go back and get a bigger price next year.
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speaking of a complete and utter horseshit...
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i'd wait for the deadline rather than make that deal.
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boo.
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that's what i meant. if wood gets filler and the #26 pick, grant should be worth at least a late lottery pick.
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could be. i think youre wrong, but we'll never know for sure.
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i understand. i'm saying that at the time they made that offer it was a low ball offer (look at what seager got). instead of waiting and seeing how the market played out, they paid javy baez. in the end, if they would have waited, they may have been able to get correa for $36 million this year. we'll never know. what we DO know is that correa did eventuay sign a deal for short term money. and that a rival team got a better player than us on a better deal, ergo why i think avila played the market badly. again. maybe if he had a history of making good deals i would be more charitable to him,but his history of poor management and timing leads me to believe he simply got played again.
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the tigers wanted correa, they didnt get him, instead their rivals got him, but somehow that means avila did a good job?
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but that's what were saying: there was no reason to go to $350 million. the twins got him for $35. instead we have baez for $18 for the next six years.
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and the conversation isnt really about whether correa played the market wrong, its whether avila did. so taking the idea that correa played it wrong, did avila take advantage of that? or did he low ball him, get rejected, and then sign an inferior player to a long term contract? he did. which is why - again - he played the market for correa wrong if they wanted correa (which they did if they offered him $275 million).
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he set the market for next year and got the most money per year this year. this year had six free agents at his position, next year he's a free agent in a market that will have one premier player at baseball's premier position: him. in the meantime, he's making $35 million. oh, and now were stuck with javy baez for 6 years. are you happy with that scenario?
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semien was a terrible signing. seager will pan out. not sure about story. yes mb, there are other bad gms besides Al Avila.
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ok, then you should understand why you were wrong before.
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exactly. he is above his station. as you say, he was peter principled into a job he is not very good at.
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see chas's post.
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cause Al Avila sucks at his job.
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espn + is the best thing to happen to hockey in a long time. its a god send to those of us who live out of market.
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because the tigers could have waited and then signed him to a similar deal the twins got him for, in theory. the twins needed a ss too (although unlike us, they have prospects at the position), and instead of paying baez they bided their time and ended up with a much better player on a much more palatable deal. Al got turned down by correa (we believe) and then paid baez on a long term deal. Al has a long history of not reading the market (jd martinez trade, verlander trade, failing to deal boyd) so i'm putting my eggs in the "Al misread things again" basket.
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come on bolts!
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quite possibly. if so, its yet another failure to read the market by al avila. but we'll never really know what they offered correa and why he turned them down.
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