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Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Even if Tork's batting average were higher, we would all be wondering why he hasn't hit for more power. That's the most concerning part of it. With Greene, the stats shows why, low flyball rate, low launch angle, etc. At his age, it's optimistic enough that he would gain power in the future. It's also optimistic enough for Tork too. But at this point, even a deep dive in the stats has Tork at a more disappointing end than Greene. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
I don't fully agree with this. Even if Greene and Torkelson had similar offensive numbers, Greene will still have a better WAR because he's playing above average defense at a premium position. It's similar to when Trout would have a higher WAR than Miggy. It was already mentioned, but Torkelson has a 40.6% fly ball rate compared to Greene's 24%. This is a big enough difference to at least partially explain the difference in BABIP. Greene has an expected batting average of .244 compared to Torkelson's .222. And despite this difference, they still have similar home run totals. The barrel% isn't even that similar, Torkelson has a 7.9% compared to Green's 9.6%. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
So what stats were you referring to that are similar that isn't based on results? -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Greene has a 99 wRC+ and a 0.9 WAR. Torkelson has a 69 wRC+ and a -1.2 WAR. Those are big differences. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Sure, the logical thing to do is hang onto Baddoo for two reasons, he's young and he's cheap. There's no way you're going to be able to overhaul the entire roster in one off-season, and it makes sense that Baddoo is going to stay since there's a sliver of a chance he can perform adequately enough. If Harris does his job right, I don't think Baddoo has any shot of a starting job, but maybe he can be a bench player (especially since there are always unforeseen injuries). I'm not a fan of Baddoo, but I'm also not a fan of most of the hitters the Tigers currently have. There are only three hitters worth keeping, Greene, Hasse and Baez (and you only keep Baez because of his contract). Maybe keep Meadows because he can potentially be healthy enough to be a comeback player. They could get rid of everyone else and I wouldn't be upset about it. There are some worth keeping because of the potential upside, (such as Torkelson, Kreidler, and Carpenter) and I guess some people think Baddoo fits this category too. I just don't see it and think he's just a one year wonder. I think maybe the way everyone has hit this year made me failed to recognize someone's potential. They way I feel I just want Harris to blow everything up and start over. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
There's obviously more upside in Torkelson. I'm not about to hand him first base for next season either, though. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Haven't you heard that he's figuring things out? -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Maybe they can trade him for someone that's actually useful in the off season. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
You can pick up the same exact production off of the waiver wire. Baddoo is a dime a dozen. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Is this the same Baddoo that is hitting .198/.279/.266? No, it's time to cut bait with him. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Just last year the Angels released Albert Pujols. Miggy is no more special than him. I would hope that Harris will have the authority to release Miggy if that's what he believes will improve the team. -
09/29/2022 1:10 EDT Kansas City Royals at Detroit Tigers
bobrob2004 replied to casimir's topic in Game Threads
If the Tigers win today, they'll overtake KC for fourth place. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
And the Giants haven't technically been eliminated yet. It'll take a lot going right for them to get in, though, jumping over the Brewers and Phillies. The Phillies have lost 4 games in a row and the Brewers are only 1/2 game back. This is really the only race left worth watching. Baltimore hasn't been eliminated yet either, but they've lost 2 in a row. Mets and Braves still have a race going on. This matters because whoever wins the division gets a bye in the first round. Although I don't think anyone outside of New York and Atlanta really cares about this. -
And with the banning of the shift, it's going to hurt low strikeout pitchers much more as they rely on the defensive placements of the fielders.
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Personally I think the media coverage for Judge is a great thing. For too long the PR side of baseball has been horrible. There aren't enough household baseball names, not like there was in the 90s and early 2000s. The whole steroid scandal has tarnished the game. Combine that with the not strike earlier this year and several fans have left. If they want to use Judge to try to bring back the fans, then I'm all for it. I embrace it if they want to invade other sports to show people what they are missing. More of it, I say.
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Only two playoff races left. Baltimore is 3.5 GB from a WC spot and Milwaukee is 1.5 GB of a WC spot. Technically, the White Sox, Twins, and Giants haven't been eliminated yet, but it's likely to happen in the next couple of days.
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The Tigers have the same winning percentage in 4 of their last 6 years. 2022 - .395 2020 - .397 2018 - .395 2017 - .395
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Jamie Moyer was still playing in 2012, when Mike Trout won ROY. Moyer made his ML debut in 1986, when Pete Rose was still playing. Rose made his ML debut in 1963, when Warren Spahn was still playing. Spahn made his ML debut in 1942 when Charlie Gehringer was still playing. Gehringer made his ML debut in 1924, when Babe Adams was still playing. Adams made his ML in 1906, when Cy Young was still playing. Young made his ML in 1890, when Cap Anson was still playing. Anson started playing in 1871 and you can't go back any further than that. Less than 10 players separate the current ballplayers from the earliest players.
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Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
Hinch just needed a better GM to be a better manager. -
09/21/2022 7:05 EDT Detroit Tigers at Baltimore Orioles
bobrob2004 replied to casimir's topic in Game Threads
I wouldn't be surprised if Harris tries to trade Baez, similar to how Dombrowski traded Prince for Kinsler. Maybe not right away, but maybe next off-season after Baez regains some value. -
Those two hits are also very important as it keeps Judge in the lead for batting average (.3170 to .3166 by Xander Bogaerts) and his lead in all 3 triple crown categories.
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According to WAR, Miggy's last good year was in 2016, around a 5-win player. Since then, he's been a -2-win player over the last 6 years.
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Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
To be fair, half those guys are always on the injured list. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
bobrob2004 replied to oblong's topic in Detroit Tigers
The Tigers had 4 years of losing after Dombrowski took over until they had a winning season. This is after a previous 8 year losing streak. The Tigers are in a similar position now, so I wouldn't expect a winning season until 2027 at the earliest. -
Do people know the pitching side of homer milestones? Who gave up #700 to Bonds, Aaron, and Ruth? Who gave up #756 to Bonds? Robert Fick hit the last homer in Tiger Stadium. Who did he hit it off of?
