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Yep. Again, this guy was being compared to Chris Webber in high school. He might have been drafted higher if he came out last year. I just think expectations were probably too high for him at Memphis because it does take big men more time to develop.

They don't. But it may be the Piston's intentions to make these two the starting front court and that is what I am worried about.

I don't expect him to be a top level guard on the offensive end. I do think that is a stretch. I am more excited about his defensive potential. It's disappointing he wasn't a better defender in college but the NBA is all about projection and he certainly isn't lacking the ability to be an elite defender. And with Bey and Cade as two of our starting wings, we really need that. Then you add in a plus transition player and average an average shooter and you have a good fit for our third wing player.

Purdue played some good teams in non conference that Ivey shot well against. If anything, I would say that is a better reflection of his game than Big Ten basketball, which severely suppresses a players skills.

That's what I am hoping for. Duren and Olynyk should be a decent pairing off the bench. I still think we need to go out and get a replacement for Grant.

You wonder if this opens the door for Miles Bridges to be our main target now. Not really a guy I am excited about but I think the hole on this team now is a replacement for Grant that has some perimeter game.

I don't know why people assume Ivey's not going to be able to shoot it in the NBA. He's not Mathurin or Murray but he is far better than Killian Hayes. I would be surprised if he is not a respectable shooter, at least by his second season.

I am excited about Duren but if we are running Duren and Stewart out there together like we used to Drummond/Monroe, I will be pissed.

Duren is extremely young so that's a positive.

I'm actually pretty high on Stewart and I don't think Stewart and Duren really fit well together. Still, everybody seems to love Duren so I'm good with it. All I can think about with Duren is how everybody compared him to Webber when he was in high school.

I typed in Duren's name on google and one tweet has him being traded to the Pistons and another tweet has him being traded to the Knicks.

I just looked at Ayton's stats last year and I will say the fact he averaged less than a block per game is pretty disappointing.

Ayton all the way for me. The fact is we have to spend our money somewhere eventually so while I don't necessarily like breaking the bank for Ayton, that is the reality of the NBA.

Pistons are going to get an A from everybody for this pick. I do think the bust potential for Ivey is higher than you would like at #5 but I still like his fit next to Cade and Saddiq.

Well, after the last 8 months of speculation about Ivey, he's actually going to be a Piston.

That's what we get for making fun of the Kings franchise the past month.

Wonder if this screws up the Pistons plans to replace Grant with Murray.

Did Ivey refuse to work out for Sacremento? If he did, it looks like he got his wish to avoid Sacremento.

The best part about getting Ivey if we do draft him may be that Hayes will no longer be a starter for us.

Crap...I wanted Murray. Still will be excited with Mathurin or Ivey though.

If Banchero goes #1, pretty much every tweet the past few days claiming to have some inside info goes out the door. Proves that what teams are leaking is often horse sh*t.

The Pistons could just be talking Mathurin up because they like Murray. I’d still guess Murray before Mathurin but confidence level is low. There were reports claiming the Lions would possibly pass on Hutch for Thibodeaux as the draft got really close. It’s not unheard of for teams to try and put out misdirection.

I just think it’s poor judgement not to have some kind of clause to net a future first rounder if that pick ends up in the top 4.

Would the pick get bumped to a later year at least? I have never heard of a team trading for a pick that could just totally be forfeited.

I agree. It seems like he is starting to swing at more pitches, which is a step in the right direction.