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Not that the reinforcements are anything to write home about, but they are at least coming anyway lol

Predictably, some fans on Twitter appear to be vindictive about this situation, but regardless we should be happy that he will come back and contribute this year. They will really need him at that point in the season and they will need him going into next year.

Trading Skubal concerns me for two reasons: 1. (The obvious one) Al Avila would be doing the trading 2. While we do not know whether he grows into it, he's the pitcher in the system most likely to achieve ace status. With respect to the second point, I do think the Tigers have become a decent org in terms of developing pitching talent, but if we are completely honest with ourselves, outside of Skubal, who is the guy that they have who can grow into a 1 or a 2 starter? Maybe Madden imo, but even with him I'm skeptical. Assuming Manning doesn't get there, they have a bunch of guys who currently project, best case scenario, no higher than a 3 (ie. Faedo, Brieske, Olson, Hill etc.). And then you have complete wild cards in Turnbull and Mize... what do they look like if/when they get back? Probably not front line guys There's always a price, so I guess if you could get someone like Alec Burleson or Nolan Gorman off the Cards, maybe it becomes worth it. But I doubt that's happening. So I hope they don't move him.

Wenceel Perez has had a nice rebound this year and has recovered some prospect status, but ranking him #10 is pretty red-flaggy as well.

Every list I've seen by the Twitter Tiger prospect watcher class (ie. the Rogelio Castillo, Trevor Hooth types) seems to put him in the 12-13 range. Seems low to me as well The Pipeline list (which I believe Sam Dykstra does for the Tigers) is a good baseline... they aren't perfect, other outlets may be better, but on top of likely having more info, they don't have "Blue and Orange" glasses when curating, meaning more objectivity. And they have Santana at 4...maybe that changes in their post draft rerank some, but I doubt he leaves Top 10. I don't care if people do lists one way or another, it is all in good fun. But its important to put into context... BP or MLB Pipeline are likely going off more info and curate a list from a place of objectivity

Don't have nearly enough information either, but on the surface, I'd have a hard time not putting Jung at #1, ahead of Jobe. MLB Pipeline kinda backs that up, as they have Jung as a 60 overall and Jobe at 55 overall. Colt Keith has been great this season when healthy, but I don't think he's a #1. Guessing he'll crack the Pipeline Top 10 when they rerank, but more like 7 or 8

Keith has been great, but #1 seems high to me.

Would be idiotic, but on brand lol

My occasional drive between here and Chicago a few weeks ago was the same... people seem to have largely put the flags and signs away for now anyway

Maybe the Yanks will come a-calling

Wenceel with a dong to send Erie's game to extras as well...

Blue Jays have dropped 27 on the Red Sox tonight lol

Also a AAAA guy who is better than Keuchel lol. At the end of the day, this thread exists only because of a version of Keuchel that is no longer operable.

Not at all. I don’t blame them at all for letting Chase Anderson leave. He's a AAAA guy. My only point is that Keuchel is actually worse IMO

"Can't make it up folks!!!"

If the Tigers claimed Keuchel, would it be the right thing to do?

Easy for me to say, but you can't just bubble wrap your pitchers because a season is lost... they need to find out what they have with Manning, as well as Rony, ElRod and Hill. Or even Turnbull if he gets starts in September, etc. Claiming Keuchel gets in the way of that I would add as well that the Tigers let Chase Anderson opt out of his deal with Toledo because he wasn't getting promoted... if this team felt they were in a position to claim Keuchel, they wouldn't have let Anderson walk. Because, like Hutchison, while his track record isn't as good as Keuchel, he's probably better than Keuchel at this point in his career

Along with Michael, Jake Miller seems like an underslot guy to me, among the remaining first 9 picks. I kinda have no clue whether Jung will be interested in rounding down to the nearest 100k lol

He was a good candidate for a discount given his age...

Anybody we think may not sign? On the surface, Dom Johnson looks like a guy who probably needs to be an overslot or risk going back to school. But I could be wrong.

Yeah, this is right. This season has been a shit show, but still have to keep in mind that individual games may not in and of themselves capture the overall trend for certain players.

12 hours on, I still think the outtakes video where he couldn't say "yesterday" really sticks with me the most. It has nothing to with cognition and everything to do with making the statement as ambiguous as possible. Which is disgusting.

A lot of time between then and now, but if he does win, it'll be interesting to see some of the underlying shifts against the 2020 Presidential Election, or how he does versus the Shapiro in the Governors race in 2022, to see if there's some underlying strength in working class areas of Pennsylvania. Places like Scranton or Johnstown or Erie.... if he makes some marginal improvements over Biden percentage wise. Or even just in rural counties more broadly. I think he can win, perhaps is even favored at this point, but it's a question of whether he does it using the typical formula for Dems these days (ie. the suburbs) or if he can add in some numbers from other areas which have trended away from Ds. If he does, it looks like a model that Ds can run with going forward.