lordstanley Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 Ugh, shorthanded breakaway goal for Philly ties it 1-1 in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 They still got... and Yzerman knows this... things to fix. Or positions to get better players at... Same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Flyers take the lead 2-1... Little did we know that the Wings are now targeting Bedard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 And just like that the Wings trail. Haven’t the Wings led in most of the losses of this 1-5-1 stretch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 By my count, if the Wings don’t come back in final 2 minutes, this will be 6 losses in a 9 day span. That hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 get used to it, boys. if i told you before the season thst the wings would be without vrana, bertuzzi, hronek, sundquist, and rasmussen, you would have totally said they were likely a last place team. or close to it. and that's what they are now. they'll probably still luck into 3 or 4 wins this month...but maybe not? if the isles make the playoffs, having two picks in the top 15 of this draft will definitely help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: get used to it, boys. if i told you before the season thst the wings would be without vrana, bertuzzi, hronek, sundquist, and rasmussen, you would have totally said they were likely a last place team. or close to it. and that's what they are now. they'll probably still luck into 3 or 4 wins this month...but maybe not? if the isles make the playoffs, having two picks in the top 15 of this draft will definitely help. SY did leave himself a big hill to climb in the offseason. Even with the most optimistic progress by all the minor league guys in the system, he's going to have to get a quality experienced Dman and probably two forwards via trade/FA just to get back to where they were before he pulled the plug. The picks are great for the view over the horizon, but they still can't miss the playoffs again next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: SY did leave himself a big hill to climb in the offseason. Even with the most optimistic progress by all the minor league guys in the system, he's going to have to get a quality experienced Dman and probably two forwards via trade/FA just to get back to where they were before he pulled the plug. The picks are great for the view over the horizon, but they still can't miss the playoffs again next season. why not? when he took over they were the worst team in modern nhl history. and then got screwed by the league in the lottery so much that they changed the rules (just in time to screw them again). they are re-setting the timeline on this team to the appropriate level - the current group of 18-22 year olds - and loading up on first round picks. next year i expect perron to be dealt too for a couple second round picks, hopefully zadina shows just enough to bring back something too. the vestiges of the old regime need to be removed, like the tigers, they set back the franchise for a decade and new mgmt is here to dig them out. this is what they needed to do a decade ago. SY has the cachet to be able to do it now and is doing it. if you thought perron and copp and kubalik would turn this team into a playoff contender, that's on you. they were never going to be better than buffalo and ottawa, teams that have been picking in the top 5 for a decade (and not fucking it up like detroit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, buddha said: why not? because you're allowed to be bad, but not allowed to go backward. Ask Avila. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: because you're allowed to be bad, but not allowed to go backward. Ask Avila. ? what did you want them to do? the alternative is sign bertuzzi long term and trade assets for a stop gap defenseman so they might finish 8th and get swept by boston? is that what you wanted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 i cant believe you just compared yzerman to al avila. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 4 hours ago, buddha said: i cant believe you just compared yzerman to al avila. I agree... That's just... hurtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 12 hours ago, buddha said: why not? when he took over they were the worst team in modern nhl history. and then got screwed by the league in the lottery so much that they changed the rules (just in time to screw them again). they are re-setting the timeline on this team to the appropriate level - the current group of 18-22 year olds - and loading up on first round picks. next year i expect perron to be dealt too for a couple second round picks, hopefully zadina shows just enough to bring back something too. the vestiges of the old regime need to be removed, like the tigers, they set back the franchise for a decade and new mgmt is here to dig them out. this is what they needed to do a decade ago. SY has the cachet to be able to do it now and is doing it. if you thought perron and copp and kubalik would turn this team into a playoff contender, that's on you. they were never going to be better than buffalo and ottawa, teams that have been picking in the top 5 for a decade (and not fucking it up like detroit). Everything's fine as long as Yzerman has a very active summer. Sundqvist, easy to replace. But need to replace Bertuzzi and what we thought Vrana could be. So a big splash on a 1st line or 2nd line forward, either by trade of 1st rounders or UFA. And a top-4 defenceman to replace Hronek. That's just to tread water compared to this year. Need more moves on top of that to move forward into strong playoff position. And it's not going to come from top 5 draft picks, because those aren't coming our way unless with crazy lottery luck one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 56 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Everything's fine as long as Yzerman has a very active summer. Sundqvist, easy to replace. But need to replace Bertuzzi and what we thought Vrana could be. So a big splash on a 1st line or 2nd line forward, either by trade of 1st rounders or UFA. And a top-4 defenceman to replace Hronek. That's just to tread water compared to this year. Need more moves on top of that to move forward into strong playoff position. And it's not going to come from top 5 draft picks, because those aren't coming our way unless with crazy lottery luck one year. there really isnt anybody to get in this offseason...unless you want to re-sign bertuzzi. meier wont be there. i wouldnt be surprised if they deal some of their LHD prospects for a RHD. they need some. i think kasper will make the team next year, like raymond did. he seems like their type of player. rasmussen back will help, but they need to get more physical. theyre really pushed around way too much still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 11 hours ago, buddha said: i cant believe you just compared yzerman to al avila. Yzerman is not Avila. Yzerman is Harbaugh of around 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Seider, Edvinsson, Wallinder...they've done a nice job of getting bigger dmen in the system. Now they need to do the same up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Is this game ever going to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I can see why Chiasson wasn't in the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Not a great few minutes for the 2018 draft. Veleno takes a dumb high sticking penalty while already on the penalty kill. Wings manage to kill the other penalty, but Zadina makes some dumb half pass leaving the zone instead of putting the puck deep into the Hawk's zone. He goes to the bench, too bad he turned the puck over and Larkin can't get into the play in time to cover the eventual goalscorer. Lalonde must be losing his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Fabbri is hurt again, Hawks score as he can't get to the bench. Looks like the guy's knee hit Fabbri's knee so I'm pretty worried for him. Edited March 9, 2023 by slothfacekilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Not a great 5 years for the 2018 draft FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 A home loss to Chicago would mean we’re in the midst of a collapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, lordstanley said: A home loss to Chicago would mean we’re in the midst of a collapse Yzerman may have had to do what he did as a good GM, but for a team to fight its way right the edge of contention and then have management pull the plug has to be a big let down in the locker room. Add that to the talent loss, I'm not taking the over on any estimates of how many more they win the rest of the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I think the season died when Rasmussen's knee did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: I think the season died when Rasmussen's knee did Yeah, that too. Nor much to hope for at this point beyond some better lottery luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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