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Its awesome that they declared themselves the victims of my post when they obviously dont know what it meant.   After poasting two other Xs that are them being victims right after they said the left was always the victim.

What a tangled web of absolute suck you choose to defecate

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15 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The Christian’s have left the left chat.

 

Speaking of kids, why do you support a federal cover up of pedos?

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16 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The Christian’s have left the left chat.

 

who is this guy and why do you think anyone here would be supporting him in particular?

But aside from the irrelevance of one more wacko in American Politics on any side, the complaint is pretty rich coming from from the side whose evangelicals bill Trump as some kind King Cyrus who must be forgiven every sacrilege because he is going to send the captives back to Jerusalem to build the temple. Not sure how abducting and sending poor Venezuelans back to South America gets that done, but whatever.

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1 minute ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757

From the article . . .

"Crooks was a registered Republican, according to Pennsylvania voter records."

Yes, he may have once donated via Act Blue to Progressive Turn Out Project, but when it came time to register to vote and chose is party registration, he registered as a Republican in the State of Pennsylvania. 

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You can sit here and post every one off and individual example you want. I can do that too. The data is clear though about who commits more political acts of violence. It is clear both in both the recent history of the past decade and prior to that. There is more right-wing political violence committed in the Untied States. And where does this data come from? Not some left wing think tank, but rather the right wing, libertarian, Cato Institute. 

 

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22 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

You can sit here and post every one off and individual example you want. I can do that too. The data is clear though about who commits more political acts of violence. It is clear both in both the recent history of the past decade and prior to that. There is more right-wing political violence committed in the Untied States. And where does this data come from? Not some left wing think tank, but rather the right wing, libertarian, Cato Institute. 

 

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I read that as the left is on the rise. I hope they both decline.

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59 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I read that as the left is on the rise. I hope they both decline.

I hope they both decline too. I don't want anyone to face violence of any kind in society, political or otherwise. It's why I have advocated so fiercely for gun safety reforms, greater expansion of mental healthcare services, wrap-around and social support services for those in need, and on. I only wish the Republican Party would do the same. I'm going to take this conversation into a different direction below and hone in on a few different things.

We often hear Republicans talking about mental healthcare after there is an act of mass violence, yet no action ever seems to be done in Republican states or when they have control of the federal government to expand mental healthcare services. Take Trump and the Republicans in DC for example. They have spent over a decade trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act and the Medicaid expansion that comes along with it. If you repeal the ACA you will essentially be throwing millions off their healthcare coverage and making it criminally expensive for millions more, to the point they may, well lose coverage to affordability-related issues.

The Republican Party and Donald Trump have not develop a clear and implementable plan to replace the ACA and ensure people don't lose coverage. Included in the coverage that real life people will lose is access to mental healthcare and psychiatric services. Medicaid currently covers mental healthcare. As do ACA subsidies on healthcare plans that people currently have. The Republican Party proports to care about mental healthcare, but is actively taking away mental healthcare services from people who need them most or may need them in the future.

One of the reasons (not the only reason) that people commit mass acts of violence and gun violence, is because they are experiencing a mental health crisis or issue of some kind. They have an underlying mental health problem that has gone unaddressed or not been properly addressed. If you take away healthcare coverage by getting rid of Medicaid for millions of people, reducing what Medicaid coverages, or by cutting the ACA subsidies, you're going to exacerbate the problem of mental health. You are also potentially making the issue of violent incidents and outbursts worst because you are taking away help from people who may be most in need of it. Now I understand you can't blame every violent incident or mass act of violence or gun violence on someone's mental healthcare. There are a host of other factors at play, including a person's own responsibilities for their actions.

We have our own real world example here in the State of Michigan as well. Governor John Engler and Republicans in Lansing gutted mental healthcare in the State of Michigan and made the problem actively worse in the 1990s and early 2000s. Between 1991 and about 2003, under Engler and the Republicans watch, Michigan closed seven state psychiatric hospitals for adults with serious mental illness, and five for children with emotional disturbances. Engler promoted redirecting funding from large state institutions into community mental health services, outpatient care, smaller group homes, etc. 

In 1993 community hospitals had about 3,041 adult psychiatric beds and 729 child/adolescent beds, by 2017 those numbers had declined to about 2,197 adult beds and 276 child/adolescent beds. Beyond numbers and policy, the human cost has been real: suffering, untreated illness, families under strain, people cycling through homelessness or incarceration, loss of dignity. You also had many who went to jail and the prison system became the "mental healthcare system" for those individuals because they resorted to crime or violent actions when they were not properly treated for their brain health issue.

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15 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I hope they both decline too. I don't want anyone to face violence of any kind in society, political or otherwise...

I wish I could

TRIPLE STAR or "Thank You" this entire message.

Brilliant, Tater.

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On 10/17/2025 at 6:13 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Not surprised at all.

 

 

You support the federal coverup of pedos and also the us financially supporting hamas.   

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1 minute ago, Archie said:

Just

You support the federal coverup of pedos, the funding of hamas, and the pardoning of thousand J6 domestic terrorists.   Sit this one out champ

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