Tiger337 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, chasfh said: I think just about everybody accepts by now that the Supreme Court is has been deeply corrupted and delegitimatized I wasn't sure about this, but I looked it up and only 27% of Americans have confidence in the Supreme Court. That's even worse than Biden and Dump. Of course, if everybody distrusts them that much, that means there is a large group of people that thinks they are corrupt for different reasons than you think. Personally, I think the way they appoint Supreme Court Justices is pretty stupid and it was destined for corruption. Edited March 5 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 11:26 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:26 AM Today the Supreme Court of the Federalist Society will hear arguments and then disregard them, and then decide 250 years of people reading the text of the constitution just didn't see that president's are immune because reasons Audio will be live on CSpan. If she is arguing today, Solicitor General Prelogar is very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 11:54 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:54 AM Some observations: 1) Apparently Trump is going to argue that "ensuring election integrity" was part of his official presidential duties, and he shouldn't be prosecuted for carrying out his official presidential duties. Problem is, ensuring election integrity is a STATE matter, STATES administer elections, not the Federal Government and certainly not the President. 2) The SCOTFS and SCOTUS historically have been aggressive in seizing power in relation to the other branches of government, main example being when the court granted itself powers not in the constitution to strike down laws passed by legislatures. Would the SCOTFS *really* give the President the authority to flout the SCOTFS if they so desired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Thursday at 12:20 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:20 PM 25 minutes ago, pfife said: 2) The SCOTFS and SCOTUS historically have been aggressive in seizing power in relation to the other branches of government, main example being when the court granted itself powers not in the constitution to strike down laws passed by legislatures. Would the SCOTFS *really* give the President the authority to flout the SCOTFS if they so desired? This one is the key. I find it hard to believe that SCOTUS would Seal Team Six themselves in the service of Agent Orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 12:57 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 12:57 PM Guest on C-SPAN just mentioned something I totally forgot, which is that Jack Smith asked the court to take this up way earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted Thursday at 02:23 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:23 PM Re:the Supreme Court hearing currently happening in regards to presidential immunity…. Listening to D. John Sauer is hard on the ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Thursday at 02:26 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:26 PM They realize Biden would have this same immunity right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Thursday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:29 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM 13 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Re:the Supreme Court hearing currently happening in regards to presidential immunity…. Listening to D. John Sauer is hard on the ears. Yeah he sounds like rfk jr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Ketanji is an absolute bad ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted Thursday at 02:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:43 PM I can't wait to see how Thomas votes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM 20 minutes ago, pfife said: Ketanji is an absolute bad ass. truer by the minute, she's utterly eviscerating him right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 03:12 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 03:12 PM Jack Smiths guy talking about how they gave congress immunity via the speech and debate clause, but specifically did not do a form of immunity for the president, strongly suggesting framers didn't want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted Thursday at 03:35 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 03:35 PM This doesn't seem like it's going well for either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Thursday at 03:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:45 PM 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: They realize Biden would have this same immunity right? Yes, but they also know he would never abuse it to jail or murder opponents and such. That's the beauty part for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Thursday at 03:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:47 PM 48 minutes ago, pfife said: truer by the minute, she's utterly eviscerating him right now. Uppity justices get whacked in Trumpworld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Thursday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:04 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted Thursday at 04:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:07 PM He has a point... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Thursday at 04:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:15 PM Just a reminder this was Bernie Sanders press secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Thursday at 04:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:49 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: you can't make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Thursday at 05:05 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:05 PM Neal Katyal seems to think 5-4 for no absolute immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Thursday at 05:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:14 PM 5-4 is way too close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Thursday at 05:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:16 PM 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: 5-4 is way too close. absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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