Last Chance Saloon: 2025 MLB Draft

[RatkoVarda]

24 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Can't believe Jace Laviolette has fallen off so badly..looked like a top end talent in last year's CWS

could be there in ROund 2, but do not think Tigers bite, does not control the zone at all

[RatkoVarda]

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24. Detroit Tigers
Andrew Fischer, 3B, Tennessee
Top 150 rank: 53

2025 MLB draft: Mock drafts and rankings

Fischer is rising due to his strong performance in the SEC this year, and while he's likely still behind Irish, he might be sneaking up on Laviolette with a chance to go in the top 20 picks. I think Detroit is looking to pair a college player with a high school player between this pick and its next (34) and will be looking mostly at left-handed hitters. As you can guess, that means a lot of different players have been tied to these two picks. Slater de Brun, Cam Cannarella, Fauske and Kayson Cunningham come up the most.

34. Detroit Tigers: Aaron Watson, RHP, Trinity Christian HS (Florida)

[IdahoBert]

As if we need a reminder about how stupid Google AI is, it just told me that the Tigers drafted Casey Mize out of high school in 2018. It couldn’t distinguish between having the first pick overall and the first pick the Tigers had regardless of where their pick occured, but I knew if I gave parameters too specific it would most likely get confused and give me nothing at all. Yet it still discovered a way to be confused.

AI Overview The Detroit Tigers have drafted high school players with their first overall pick twice in the modern draft era: in 1997 and 2018. They selected pitcher Matt Anderson first overall in 1997 and pitcher Casey Mize in 2018. While the Tigers have drafted many high school players overall, these are the only two instances where a high school player was chosen with the very first pick

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

As if we need a reminder about how stupid Google AI is, it just told me that the Tigers drafted Casey Mize out of high school in 2018. It couldn’t distinguish between having the first pick overall and the first pick the Tigers had regardless of where their pick occured, but I knew if I gave parameters too specific it would most likely get confused and give me nothing at all. Yet it still discovered a way to be confused.

AI Overview The Detroit Tigers have drafted high school players with their first overall pick twice in the modern draft era: in 1997 and 2018. They selected pitcher Matt Anderson first overall in 1997 and pitcher Casey Mize in 2018. While the Tigers have drafted many high school players overall, these are the only two instances where a high school player was chosen with the very first pick

F those robots!  They really are stoopid.

[CMRivdogs]

MLB's latest mock based on the "combine"

https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/mlb-pipeline-mock-draft-for-june-19-2025?t=mlb-draft-coverage&partnerId=it-20250620-13942125-mlb-1-B&utm_id=it-20250620-13942125-mlb-1-B&lctg=83904780

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24. Tigers: Slater de Brun, OF, Summit (Ore.) HS (No. 25)
Detroit has had a lot of success with high school hitters in recent Drafts, and de Brun gives off Corbin Carroll vibes.

 

[Arlington]

On 6/18/2025 at 3:44 PM, Tenacious D said:

F those robots!  They really are stoopid.

I share Google AIs reply with ChatGPT.  The reply

Google’s AI Overview strikes again—gracefully face-planting into a pile of its own fabricated confidence. According to it, Casey Mize was drafted out of high school in 2018, which is a fascinating take if you’ve never heard of facts, college baseball, or basic research.

Just to recap for our robot overlords:

• Mize came out of Auburn University, not Algebra II.

• The Tigers used the #1 overall pick—not their “first pick wherever it happened to land.”

• And no, they’ve never used the #1 overall pick on a high schooler, but thanks for playing.

This isn’t just a minor error. This is what happens when a glorified autocomplete tries to cosplay as a baseball historian. It’s like someone asked a Magic 8-Ball for draft facts and then published the answer in bold.

Honestly, it takes real effort to misunderstand something this simple while sounding so sure of yourself. Google’s AI didn’t just miss the mark—it confidently wandered into the wrong stadium and declared victory.

But yeah, tell me again how AI is going to replace actual knowledge.

[romad1]

6 hours ago, Arlington said:

I share Google AIs reply with ChatGPT.  The reply

Google’s AI Overview strikes again—gracefully face-planting into a pile of its own fabricated confidence. According to it, Casey Mize was drafted out of high school in 2018, which is a fascinating take if you’ve never heard of facts, college baseball, or basic research.

Just to recap for our robot overlords:

• Mize came out of Auburn University, not Algebra II.

• The Tigers used the #1 overall pick—not their “first pick wherever it happened to land.”

• And no, they’ve never used the #1 overall pick on a high schooler, but thanks for playing.

This isn’t just a minor error. This is what happens when a glorified autocomplete tries to cosplay as a baseball historian. It’s like someone asked a Magic 8-Ball for draft facts and then published the answer in bold.

Honestly, it takes real effort to misunderstand something this simple while sounding so sure of yourself. Google’s AI didn’t just miss the mark—it confidently wandered into the wrong stadium and declared victory.

But yeah, tell me again how AI is going to replace actual knowledge.

This is a really good post for more than just baseball.  I'm have been marveling at how the compiled knowledge on youtube for cooking, auto repair and home repair are so much more valuable than whatever nonsense you get from AI.  My son pointed out that the AI has no penalty for providing the sort of swings and misses like the above.   So, if I'm seeking the process for repairing a head light on a 2014 Chevy Traverse, the youtube video probably exists in multiple forms and from multiple mechanics.  If it doesn't happen to be a correct year/model traverse I can tell instantly if the search gave me the wrong one.  I can use my brain and say 'that doesn't look like the correct model' and keep looking.  Whereas the cock-sure AI model just plunges us into some solution that might cost us money to buy the wrong part.  

[RandyMarsh]

I asked Google yesterday to give me my family Medical Doctors number cause I misplaced it and instead of spitting out the number "gemini" spit out a 1000 word essay about his background......he's been our family Doctor for almost 50 yrs now so we know alot about him and his background and virtually everything it said about him wasn't accurate.

[Arlington]

I heard that programmers with skills in debugging AI written code were in demand.  

 

I tried to use AI to lay out a 6x10 raise garden bed using a list of seeds I had picked up. I gave it a few instructions,  such as planting density, planting timing, compatibility, sun orientation, and so forth, and it spat out a reasonable detailed layout.  Unfortunately  the dimensions never amounted to a 6x10 foot bed even though I pointed it out in numerous tries and gave it all the measurement information it would need to lay things out.  I sometimes think that the owners are chortling the resources they are allowing users to use on a task so that information is not built upon itself as it should be.  It seems to have a very bad short term memory

 

[LongLiveMaroth]

Pipelibe Mock: 

Slater de Brun and Ethan Conrad both LH Outfielders 

https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/mlb-pipeline-mock-draft-june-26-2025?t=mlb-draft-coverage 

[oblong]

There's a point where you spend more time in crafting the question for AI that is greater than the time you'd spend just figuring it out on your own.

[Shinzaki]

AI is the intellectual equivalent of inbreeding...sooner or later a Prince Charles shows up and you have to look at getting a bigger gene pool

[Edman85]

I tested AI a while back with some niche draft rule questions that I knew were wrong in the public domain to see how wrong it was... It failed.

[CMRivdogs]

I admit to using ChatGpt for our vacation plans this year. A month-long road trip following Lewis and Clark to Montana. It took a bit of tweaking to get close to what we want

[LongLiveMaroth]

So do you guys think the Tigers are going to draft ChatGPT, Gemini, or Deepseek? 😂

[romad1]

Some team is going to draft a pitcher with 6 fingers aren't they? 

2 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

So do you guys think the Tigers are going to draft ChatGPT, Gemini, or Deepseek? 😂

 

[Cruzer1]

12 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Some team is going to draft a pitcher with 6 fingers aren't they? 

 

Only if he throws changeups.

[Tigermojo]

I thought we had Johnny Kane for artificial intelligence.

[theroundsquare]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Some team is going to draft a pitcher with 6 fingers aren't they? 

 

Antonio Alfonseca?

[Tiger337]

On 6/20/2025 at 10:02 AM, CMRivdogs said:

MLB's latest mock based on the "combine"

https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/mlb-pipeline-mock-draft-for-june-19-2025?t=mlb-draft-coverage&partnerId=it-20250620-13942125-mlb-1-B&utm_id=it-20250620-13942125-mlb-1-B&lctg=83904780

 

Not a good baseball name.  Maybe hockey.  

[Tiger337]

6 hours ago, Edman85 said:

I tested AI a while back with some niche draft rule questions that I knew were wrong in the public domain to see how wrong it was... It failed.

AI has its uses, but it sucks at sports.  

[LongLiveMaroth]

BA Mock https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2025-mlb-mock-draft-5-0-updated-first-round-picks-after-college-world-series/
 

24. Tigers — Slater de Brun, OF, Summit HS, Bend, Ore.

The Tigers have been linked to de Brun so frequently, it’s hard not to think it’s just smoke. But it does sound like there is real interest here, even if this might represent the top-end of potential outcomes from the speedy center fielder. It would be hard to see the Tigers passing on Cunningham if he slides, and I wonder if the Tigers could also be one of the teams interested in trying to sign Coy James out of his Ole Miss commitment. That’s three hitterish preps. 

 

34. Tigers — Riley Quick, RHP, Alabama

Depending on what happens with Gage Wood, there could be something of a vacuum with college pitchers in the second half of the first round. Quick could easily jump into that. If not, he could make sense here with Detroit. 

[Shinzaki]

DeBrun/Quick is a pairing I've seen in more than one mock this year