Trumps Presidency 2025

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Wonder what they did to set him off.

 

That is funny because I used to read it a lot and found them to be pretty balanced except for the editorial section which was heavily biased in favor of Trump.  My guess is they have been talking negatively about the tariffs.  

[pfife]

47 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

His face or the office?  

yes

[romad1]

Lots of innovation is going to come out of Europe in the next 4 years.   Oh well, the slack-jawed yokels will enjoy the librul tears.

[oblong]

I was thinking over the weekend while at Twelve Oaks doing my old man "It's cold and raining out, let's go to the mall and walk around" thing....

What happens if things don't get ****ed up this year?

 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

People don't realize how many movies and TV shows are filmed in Vancouver. The studio there is one of the largest outside of Southern California. 

An obvious national security threat. 🫤

[romad1]

In the Terry Moran interview regarding the tatoos.  I was reminded of Will Ferrrel's Harry Carey skit on SNL where he implores Jeff Goldblum's character to tell him if he would eat the moon if it were made of bbq spare ribs. 

[pfife]

Hard to believe blokes lile trump and musk made ridiculous promises and then failed miserably to meet them.  Definitely not their normal MO.

 

 

[LaceyLou]

12 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Have you seen recent pictures of the Oval Office. I call it Presidential Brothel style with all the gold trim

 https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/trump-is-putting-his-touches-on-the-white-house-with-flagpoles-art-and-an-oval-office-overhaul/3898147/

Yet he wants us peons to economize and like it

 

All of a sudden I have the song Big Yellow Taxi in my head.... and memories of a boring part of a 7th grade New England Heritage tour when we toured impressive but incredibly gaudy gilded mansions in Newport.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[oblong]

55 minutes ago, romad1 said:

In the Terry Moran interview regarding the tatoos.  I was reminded of Will Ferrrel's Harry Carey skit on SNL where he implores Jeff Goldblum's character to tell him if he would eat the moon if it were made of bbq spare ribs. 

I know I would....

 

[The Ronz]

13 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

Have you seen recent pictures of the Oval Office. I call it Presidential Brothel style with all the gold trim

Pretty much exactly that!

Looks like it was decorated by Bob Guccione circa 1979.

[CMRivdogs]

 

[romad1]

The thing keeping him from running again (unconstitutionally) in 2028 is the idea that Obama would run and destroy him.   And I for one never voted for Obama but would push this narrative so the orange fool would back away from his native cowardice. 

Edited Monday at 03:18 PM by romad1

[Tiger337]

44 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

He got no due process for attempting a coup though.  

[ben9753]

18 minutes ago, romad1 said:

The thing keeping him from running again (unconstitutionally) in 2028 is the idea that Obama would run and destroy him.   And I for one never voted for Obama but would push this narrative so the orange fool would back away from his native cowardice. 

I think he would beat Obama handily.

[Tiger337]

11 minutes ago, ben9753 said:

I think he would beat Obama handily.

Do you think the electorate has changed or do you think Obama has changed?

[romad1]

who had more votes

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Do you think the electorate has changed or do you think Obama has changed?

Obama did get a lot of votes in 08 - but on the other hand remember that Bush and the GOP had not only just blown the economy to smithereens with lax oversight (one case where you could say a president's admin was directly responsible for an economic outcome), but were also conducting wars that had become unpopular, plus his opposing candidate couldn't even decide if he was or wasn't in the race - so Obama had some very strong winds at his back. It *should* have been impossible for the GOP to win in 2008. And 2012 he got fewer votes - it was very competitive despite Obama's advantage of incumbency.

Edited Monday at 04:01 PM by gehringer_2

[oblong]

6 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Do you think the electorate has changed or do you think Obama has changed?

I think the electorate has changed... I do think there's a distinct Obama/Trump voter for whatever reason.

But I think Obama still wins.  He might not win Ohio and Florida.... but he also lost states like Arizona, Georgia, and NC in 2012 so he could pick those up.

It wouldn't be a route like he had before but we'd know by midnight.

 

[oblong]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Obama did get a lot of votes - but on the other hand remember that Bush and the GOP had not only just blown the economy to smithereens with lax oversight (one case where you could say a president's admin was directly responsible for an economic outcome), but were also conducting wars that had become unpopular, plus his opposing candidate couldn't even decide if he was or wasn't in the race - so Obama had some very strong winds at his back. It *should* have been impossible for the GOP to win in 2008. And 2012 he got fewer votes - it was very competitive despite Obama's advantage of incumbency.

and McCain and Romney, for different reasons, were not Trump's GOP.

Are there voters who would go with Obama and didn't go for Harris?  I'd say yes.

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, oblong said:

I think the electorate has changed... I do think there's a distinct Obama/Trump voter for whatever reason.

But I think Obama still wins.  He might not win Ohio and Florida.... but he also lost states like Arizona, Georgia, and NC in 2012 so he could pick those up.

It wouldn't be a route like he had before but we'd know by midnight.

 

you look at how much vote totals have increased recently though and it is a different electorate. I buy the argument that making voting easier has increased the electorate - and I don't think that has played well for the dems. I don't think the Dems, who have for many decades been the party of the more engaged voter, have figured out how to reach the lower information, lower interest voter that has joined the electorate.

This is why I think the Dems best hope is that Trump voter buyer's remorse simply shrinks the electorate in the next cycle as those people stay home realizing they were incompetent voters. If Dunning-Kruger holds the Dems will have a tougher go.  

Edited Monday at 04:08 PM by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

46 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

you look at how much vote totals have increased recently though and it is a different electorate. I buy the argument that making voting easier has increased the electorate - and I don't think that has played well for the dems. I don't think the Dems, who have for many decades been the party of the more engaged voter, have figured out how to reach the lower information, lower interest voter that has joined the electorate.

This is why I think the Dems best hope is that Trump voter buyer's remorse simply shrinks the electorate in the next cycle as those people stay home realizing they were incompetent voters. If Dunning-Kruger holds the Dems will have a tougher go.  

Trump not running should chase away a lot of voters.  As stupid as he is about anything serious, I don't think anybody else will be able to market himself the way he can.  

Edited Monday at 04:51 PM by Tiger337

[romad1]

Since only Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania matter anymore...do you think he would be confident enough that he could win these states against Obama? 

[Motown Bombers]

17 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Since only Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania matter anymore...do you think he would be confident enough that he could win these states against Obama? 

I mean, Trump didn't win them against Obama's VP, why he win them against Obama? 

[ewsieg]

Buttigieg/Obama ticket steamrolls DJT/Trump ticket.