Tigermojo Posted June 24 Posted June 24 31 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: in one alternate reality, the 2007 writer's strike never happened, so The Apprentice never happened, and Trump was killed by the Russian mob because he skimmed off the top of the money laundering at Trump properties to pay Melania's divorce settlement. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted June 24 Posted June 24 A bit off track but I found out today that folk singer Woody Guthrie had a song called Old Man Trump in his repertoire. The song describes Fred Trump's racist practices as a landlord. Woody rented an apartment at Trump's Beach Haven Apartments. I don't think he ever recorded the song but did sing it often. There are versions on YouTube Here is an AI updated version on his son Quote I suppose Young Man Trump knows Just how deep Division grows When you trade In bitter lines And dress hate up In stars and signs. He tweets in caps While justice burns, He rewrites truth In sharp U-turns. He built his towers On shifting sand— The law bends strange With power in hand. He learned the game From Old Man Fred— Keep out the poor, Keep fear well-fed. But Woody sang Of better days— Of union songs And workers’ praise. Now Beach Haven’s Long since sold, But the ink is fresh, The tale still told. From Brooklyn roofs To D.C. walls, That color line Still loudly calls. Oh, Young Man Trump, The times have changed— But you play old chords On strings deranged. This land is ours, From shore to shore, And hate won’t rule Forevermore. 4 Quote
ewsieg Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Thinking about this a bit on a much nicer dog walk this evening after we got some rain today and regime change is a must, am I wrong? If our intel, not Israel's, but what is being reported about our Intel, that 1) they weren't looking to create nuclear weapons and even if they were, they were years away and 2) that we likely only sent them back 3-6 months, then the best thing for the current power structure in Iran to do is to bow to Trump and let him take his victory lap as he tries to claim he brought world peace. Meanwhile, they have already discussed and determined that now is the time to go full speed ahead on a weapon, right? That gives them 3 years under Trump to get it while he ignores it because ignoring it will make his base feel it's not an issue. And don't get me wrong, I was extremely hesitant of any action in Iran because of Iraq. Yes I used to have grandiose ideas of what great things could come out of Arab Spring, but I've seen the results. This just seems like such a bad spot for the world. Please someone tell me I'm wrong...I want to be wrong. Quote
romad1 Posted June 25 Posted June 25 they realize they are going to lose over this. Maybe they want that to happen so they can finally be rid of these idiot MAGA people. Quote
romad1 Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Trump being questioned by foreign press at the NATO summit is being a complete and usual ass hat. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Unsurprisingly full on childish meltdown mode with foreign reporters. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Guess Whitmer going to DC and getting played by Trump didn't help her. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 25 Posted June 25 So Medicaid activists in wheelchairs get arrested the day of a sit in but it takes months to arrest MAGA protesters who used bear spray on police, smashed their heads into doors, beat them with barricades, flag poles, batons? 1 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Absolutely disgusting and appalling. This is America. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Trump is taking a page out of the George W Bush playbook and taking criticism of his actions and making it out to be a criticism of the military but taking to a whole other level. 1 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Maybe Trump can get all the warmongering centrist Democrats to act like cowards as they did under DubyaMD and go along with him too. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 26 Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Maybe Trump can get all the warmongering centrist Democrats to act like cowards as they did under DubyaMD and go along with him too. Or maybe they are leftists now and will play in traffic and demand DoorDash. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 26 Posted June 26 58 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Or maybe they are leftists now and will play in traffic and demand DoorDash. Warmongering centrists are leftists now? It was the left (plus Ron Paul and the libertarians) who warned Iraq was going to be a complete disaster. It was. It is now the left warning that bombing Iran and launching a war with them will have dire consequences. I just hope the center of the party learned lessons from Iraq when most centrists voted to allow DubyaMD to invade a country under false pretenses and fabricated intelligence. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 26 Posted June 26 A warmongering centrist ended the war in Afghanistan, ended drone strikes in the Middle East, was the first president in decades not to enter a war or have troops actively engaged in war, and leftists said he was doing a genocide. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Funny thing is, the leftist senator from Pennsylvania is one of the biggest warmongers in the senate. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted June 26 Posted June 26 12 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Trump is taking a page out of the George W Bush playbook and taking criticism of his actions and making it out to be a criticism of the military but taking to a whole other level. He says "there were no facts out there yet." But he was real quick to say the Iran sites were totally demolished. So yeah, his base believes his lies. But just assume anything he says is a lie. A real safe bet. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Funny thing is, the leftist senator from Pennsylvania is one of the biggest warmongers in the senate. war and peace often doesn’t break left /right. I think it’s more how much history a person understands and that’s no particular strength on either side of left right. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted June 26 Posted June 26 4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: A warmongering centrist ended the war in Afghanistan, ended drone strikes in the Middle East, was the first president in decades not to enter a war or have troops actively engaged in war, and leftists said he was doing a genocide. The same warmongering centrist who thought it would be a good idea to send troops into Iraq. One good decision doesn't cancel out one bad decision. Biden and many centrist Democrats clearly thought it was a good idea to allow DubyaMD and the Bush Administration to have full authority to unilaterally invade Iraq. They went along with faulty intelligence that said Saddam had ties to terrorists organizations, was trying to build a nuclear weapon with yellowcake uranium from Niger, and had weapons of mass destruction. There were 23 brave Senators and 123 House Reps who did not by into the Bush Administration's warmongering and saber rattling. They get credit for making the right decision that Biden didn't. As to the Fetterman issue, I think Fetterman's voting record has made it clear he isn't much of a progressive or leftist. Post-stroke John Fetterman has been a completely different human being and not at all like the candidate who ran in 2022. Quote
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