Tiger337 Posted Monday at 02:07 PM Posted Monday at 02:07 PM 4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: Was he "brown"? That's what you and others are implying here, that only "brown" people are being targeted. The only person "off the rails" in my mind are people like you that obviously want open borders and no immigration laws at all. Some White people get detained too and that's supposed to make everything OK? Whites and non-whites do not get the same treatment by our legal syatem. Non-whites are targeted disproportionately. They always have been. 1 Quote
oblong Posted Monday at 02:08 PM Posted Monday at 02:08 PM I didn't ignore it. It's irrelevant. Supporting nazi policies is your burden. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted Monday at 02:09 PM Posted Monday at 02:09 PM Just now, Motown Bombers said: I mean, if the swastika fits... I get it, you open border advocates melt down against any push back of your insane ideology. I'm heading out now, have fun sitting around waiting for the next immigration case the media tells you to be mad about. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 02:15 PM Posted Monday at 02:15 PM 4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: I get it, you open border advocates melt down against any push back of your insane ideology. I'm heading out now, have fun sitting around waiting for the next immigration case the media tells you to be mad about. Saying a US citizen shouldn't spend 26 days in detention when he has all the necessary documentation is not an open border advocate. Besides, this isn't border security. It's just a way to expel the undesirables from the US like in early 30's Germany. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Monday at 02:17 PM Posted Monday at 02:17 PM 8 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: How was it wrong? Can you provide the specifics of her case that lead you to believe it should have never happened or are you just defaulting to immigration officials being in the wrong on every single case you read about? It wasn't wrong to question her. She actually came to the immigration office herself to try to straighten things out and that's when she was detained, It was wrong to hold on to her for weeks when there was no evidence that she was a danger to society. I don't need to provide specifics. You are the one that needs to explain why she was held for weeks. The null hypothesis is not that ICE is always right. Innocent until proven guilty is the American way. 1 Quote
LaceyLou Posted Monday at 02:20 PM Posted Monday at 02:20 PM 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: Saying a US citizen shouldn't spend 26 days in detention when he has all the necessary documentation is not an open border advocate. Besides, this isn't border security. It's just a way to expel the undesirables from the US like in early 30's Germany. Since you're not 100% in favor of current ICE tactics, clearly we are all for open borders. Didn't you know that? This of course means Galaga is going to be ratting out neighbors, if not going out in ICE gear and actively participating in mass deportations. After all there's nothing in between. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 02:27 PM Posted Monday at 02:27 PM 5 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: Since you're not 100% in favor of current ICE tactics, clearly we are all for open borders. Didn't you know that? This of course means Galaga is going to be ratting out neighbors, if not going out in ICE gear and actively participating in mass deportations. After all there's nothing in between. All my neighbors are immigrants, and I have no clue what their legal status is. I don't feel the need to call ICE on them since they appear to be productive neighbors in the community. That means I support open borders. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted Monday at 02:37 PM Posted Monday at 02:37 PM 24 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: The data says that the large majority of illegal immigrants come from Mexico and South America. Now I have a question for you. That being the case, where do you think the large majority of people being rounded up in these operations are going to be from? The question as posed presupposes I support these operations in the first place, and I definitely do not. But what the data do tell us that undocumented immigrants from only certain countries are being targeted for not only rounding up, but for the kind of government-sanctioned brutal treatment not seen in this country since the southern states during the Jim Crow era. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 02:40 PM Posted Monday at 02:40 PM The immigrants in my neighborhood are Ukrainian and Arab. I'll go on a limb and say the Arabs are more likely to get stopped, questioned and detained than the Ukrainians. Quote
ewsieg Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Posted Monday at 02:43 PM 26 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Saying a US citizen shouldn't spend 26 days in detention when he has all the necessary documentation is not an open border advocate. Besides, this isn't border security. It's just a way to expel the undesirables from the US like in early 30's Germany. Sounds like you're one of those crazy 4th amendment advocates. Quote
pfife Posted Monday at 04:27 PM Posted Monday at 04:27 PM Im glad it seems like trump is coming around a bit on Ukraine but his ridiculous positions heretofore probably contributed to the war lasting much longer. Quote
smr-nj Posted Monday at 04:39 PM Posted Monday at 04:39 PM 11 minutes ago, pfife said: Im glad it seems like trump is coming around a bit on Ukraine but his ridiculous positions heretofore probably contributed to the war lasting much longer. …. And he’s giving the Russians 50 days to end the.war. What happened to the standard “2 weeks”? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 05:01 PM Posted Monday at 05:01 PM 22 minutes ago, smr-nj said: …. And he’s giving the Russians 50 days to end the.war. What happened to the standard “2 weeks”? Friends and family get extra time. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted Monday at 05:20 PM Posted Monday at 05:20 PM 2 hours ago, LaceyLou said: Since you're not 100% in favor of current ICE tactics, clearly we are all for open borders. Didn't you know that? This of course means Galaga is going to be ratting out neighbors, if not going out in ICE gear and actively participating in mass deportations. After all there's nothing in between. Since I looked at the facts of one case from 6 years and defended the government, that means I 100% support everything they're doing today and am a Nazi, right? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 05:30 PM Posted Monday at 05:30 PM 9 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: Since I looked at the facts of one case from 6 years and defended the government, that means I 100% support everything they're doing today and am a Nazi, right? That and the fact you defend every action on here from ICE. I can't see how you can even look at the facts from that one case and still support ICE. Quote
LaceyLou Posted Monday at 05:49 PM Posted Monday at 05:49 PM 15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: That and the fact you defend every action on here from ICE. I can't see how you can even look at the facts from that one case and still support ICE. And seems to have the answer "what does that have to do with being in the country illegally" no matter what the situation, including in cases when the person was in diapers when brought over. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Posted Monday at 05:55 PM 1 hour ago, pfife said: Im glad it seems like trump is coming around a bit on Ukraine but his ridiculous positions heretofore probably contributed to the war lasting much longer. My theory: He wants to support the winning team. He assumed Russia was going to win so he selected them. He thought Putin was a tough guy, so he admired him. Now, he sees that they are weak, so he is switching teams. If Ukraine "wins" the war, he will take credit for it. It's the same theory I have about his being Republican. He knew he couldn't win as a Democrat. If he needed to be a Democrat to win an election, then he would have been a Democrat. Quote
LaceyLou Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Posted Monday at 05:56 PM 28 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: Since I looked at the facts of one case from 6 years and defended the government, that means I 100% support everything they're doing today and am a Nazi, right? I was looking your answers in which you suggested that any of us who dared to criticize actions of ICE obviously want no laws and open borders, and using the same type of reasoning to suggest that you think that ICE is always justified in removing people no matter what and no matter how. Got it? 4 Quote
GalagaGuy Posted Monday at 07:00 PM Posted Monday at 07:00 PM 1 hour ago, LaceyLou said: I was looking your answers in which you suggested that any of us who dared to criticize actions of ICE obviously want no laws and open borders, and using the same type of reasoning to suggest that you think that ICE is always justified in removing people no matter what and no matter how. Got it? People such as yourself are looking at half the evidence and then ignoring the important details on the other side of things that go a long way towards actually understanding what took place. Aside from the fact this happened 6 years ago, the dude was using a bogus tourist visa that identified him as having been born in Mexico. Anyone who looks at things objectively would admit to that being something that is going to cause problems, regardless of the color of your skin. Got it? Quote
Tiger337 Posted Monday at 07:34 PM Posted Monday at 07:34 PM 27 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: People such as yourself are looking at half the evidence and then ignoring the important details on the other side of things that go a long way towards actually understanding what took place. Aside from the fact this happened 6 years ago, the dude was using a bogus tourist visa that identified him as having been born in Mexico. Anyone who looks at things objectively would admit to that being something that is going to cause problems, regardless of the color of your skin. Got it? You don't seem to be MAGA based on the whole body of your posts, but whem you say stuff like, "you guys just want open borders" any time they criticize ICE, it makes you sound like one of those guys that has Fox News going in their home all hours of the day. 1 Quote
oblong Posted Monday at 07:34 PM Posted Monday at 07:34 PM yeah we got it. You are defending bone headed policies. Keep digging Quote
GalagaGuy Posted Monday at 07:38 PM Posted Monday at 07:38 PM 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: You don't seem to be MAGA based on the whole body of your posts, but whem you say stuff like, "you guys just want open borders" any time they criticize ICE, it makes you sound like one of those guys that has Fox News going in their home all hours of the day. Well when people are defending literally every person who is deported, one can only come to the conclusion that they wish for all immigration laws to be abolished. Personally, I don't care if a convicted murderer or child rapist was sent to South Sudan because their home country refused to take them but many of you are even defending those people. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted Monday at 07:39 PM Posted Monday at 07:39 PM 3 minutes ago, oblong said: yeah we got it. You are defending bone headed policies. Keep digging Yeah, how dare a county have immigration laws. So stupid, what are we even thinking? Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted Monday at 07:43 PM Posted Monday at 07:43 PM 4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: Well when people are defending literally every person who is deported, one can only come to the conclusion that they wish for all immigration laws to be abolished. Personally, I don't care if a convicted murderer or child rapist was sent to South Sudan because their home country refused to take them but many of you are even defending those people. When was “literally every person” that was deported defended in this thread? Quote
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