gehringer_2 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: will Murdoch fight or cave? How much fun would it be to watch the crack up and handicap whether the MAGA public stayed with Fox or Trump if Fox went hard anti-Trump. Which ever one went to the mat it would be no-lose for America. And this could make for another great mini-series. The battle between the media giant and its Frankenstein political creation re-unites the media magnate's warring children --- so many possible story lines! The entertainment loss will probably be ours though, 10:1 NewCorp rolls over. Edited July 18 by gehringer_2 Quote
ewsieg Posted July 18 Posted July 18 5 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Trump holds grudges. He wants to punish CBS for the 60 Minutes interview with Harris. Under a normal administration this wouldn’t be an issue. Trump will say he got him fired, but Trump always takes credit for stuff he has nothing to do with. Maybe this is over the merger, but Trump already got his pound of flesh with 60 minutes. Even if Kamala would have won, the networks would have had to make a tough decision on how they handle late night TV between the salaries they are paying and the fact that ratings have consistently dropped over the hey day of late night TV many years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Kimmel is next and that simply has to do with the fact that his contract is up. His only saving grace may be that Colbert is gone. Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 19 Posted July 19 They are putting up posters of Trump with Epstein in the UK before his visit lol. Quote
chasfh Posted July 19 Posted July 19 8 hours ago, GalagaGuy said: I told someone a few weeks ago that the reason the Epstein files will never be released is because Trump's name is so deeply ingrained that there's just no way to remove him without people catching onto the fact that the files have been altered. I think they might be getting to the point where they have to release something, because it’s simply gotten way too loud. The three main issues to navigate that I can see when they do get released will be (1) expurgations, meaning large chunks of the files not getting released with the rest; (2) selective redactions, meaning naming some names and redacting others; and (3) fraud; meaning authorship of additional text not in the originals and/or alterations of original text within. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 19 Posted July 19 CBS Reportedly Lost $40 Million on Colbert’s Late Show This Year Quote Sources inside CBS have suddenly become much more forthcoming about the sobering economics of late-night television in 2025—go figure— revealing that The Late Show with Stephen Colbert has recently been running at an annual shortfall of $40 million. If that sounds unthinkable for the #1 rated show at 11:35pm, consider this: as Matt Belloni reports today in Puck, back in 2018, all of late-night television combined generated $438 million in advertising revenue. By 2023, that number had been cut in half, and it has continued to fall. Given that The Late Show—with its handsomely paid host and a staff of roughly 200 employees—reportedly costs CBS $100 million per year to produce, that $40 million figure becomes easier to understand. Quote
LaceyLou Posted July 19 Posted July 19 23 hours ago, Kacie said: It isn't that they don't know, it's that they don't care. They, Trump, Fox News, whoever, have convinced them that a Mexican "illegal" picking strawberries is worse than Trump sexually molesting adolescent girls. There will be Trump crossed out in crayon with Biden written in on the Epstein files and the rubes will believe it. I was watching a Netflix doc on the Oklahoma City bombing and it was chilling to sort of see the beginning of this **** show. Of course it was originally blamed on Muslim terrorists. Unfortunately I do know that many of them are like that. I also know people who share memes of Drumpf's kindness to certain of his employees, of him praying-things like that. You and I both know that these things either aren't real or came with strings attached in some way. Others take it at face value. Even though I know you're right, I still don't get it. I hope I never do... Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 19 Posted July 19 42 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: Unfortunately I do know that many of them are like that. I also know people who share memes of Drumpf's kindness to certain of his employees, of him praying-things like that. You and I both know that these things either aren't real or came with strings attached in some way. Others take it at face value. Even though I know you're right, I still don't get it. I hope I never do... He has extremely low self-esteem. He masks that by being larger than life and never admitting any wrongdoing. He gets his self-esteem from his public persona. How people view him is very important to him. If people react negatively towards him, he twists reality around by claiming Trump derangement syndrome or he has huge crowds etc. 2 Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On 7/18/2025 at 5:07 PM, Kacie said: It isn't that they don't know, it's that they don't care. They, Trump, Fox News, whoever, have convinced them that a Mexican "illegal" picking strawberries is worse than Trump sexually molesting adolescent girls. There will be Trump crossed out in crayon with Biden written in on the Epstein files and the rubes will believe it. I was watching a Netflix doc on the Oklahoma City bombing and it was chilling to sort of see the beginning of this **** show. Of course it was originally blamed on Muslim terrorists. Some don't care. There are others who just don't know. Most of the stories of him being a sexual predator originated long before 2016 and they were not paying attention to Trump at the time. So, they assume the accusations are politically motivated. Personally, I have assumed he was a predator for over 40 years. That is why he bought all the beauty pageants and why he was always at the playboy mansion. 2 Quote
chasfh Posted July 19 Posted July 19 19 hours ago, Deleterious said: CBS Reportedly Lost $40 Million on Colbert’s Late Show This Year 3 Quote
chasfh Posted July 20 Posted July 20 I thought that story sounded familiar—it’s from two years ago. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted July 20 Posted July 20 the fact that Trump is a long-long pervert is well known. Hillary, and to a lesser extent Biden and Harris, made the point repeatedly. Not sure why we think people will now care about his decades long relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. Trump thinks the media and the public will move on in 2 weeks from every issue. He's been right about that all along. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: the fact that Trump is a long-long pervert is well known. Hillary, and to a lesser extent Biden and Harris, made the point repeatedly. Not sure why we think people will now care about his decades long relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. Trump thinks the media and the public will move on in 2 weeks from every issue. He's been right about that all along. Ezra Klein did his podcast this week with Will Sommer whose theory is that the whole Esptein, sexual predator, child-sacrificing-satanic-ritual-liberal-cabal running the world MAGA idee fixe is one that at least certain segments of MAGA will not be able to let Trump 'move on' from. I think what he describes is probably accurate for some segment of MAGAland, the important question though is how much of MAGAland - and I don't think anyone has much handle on that until it plays out. NYT is paywalled but they used to allow a freebie or two per month to guests. IDK if that is still true. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-will-sommer.html?searchResultPosition=2 2 Quote
LaceyLou Posted July 20 Posted July 20 57 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Ezra Klein did his podcast this week with Will Sommer whose theory is that the whole Esptein, sexual predator, child-sacrificing-satanic-ritual-liberal-cabal running the world MAGA idee fixe is one that at least certain segments of MAGA will not be able to let Trump 'move on' from. I think what he describes is probably accurate for some segment of MAGAland, the important question though is how much of MAGAland - and I don't think anyone has much handle on that until it plays out. NYT is paywalled but they used to allow a freebie or two per month to guests. IDK if that is still true. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-will-sommer.html?searchResultPosition=2 And occasionally people will begin to believe something like this that has been floating around for a while. I do know some people who changed their mind about this before, so maybe there will be a few more this time around. Quote
Kacie Posted July 20 Posted July 20 23 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Some don't care. There are others who just don't know. Most of the stories of him being a sexual predator originated long before 2016 and they were not paying attention to Trump at the time. So, they assume the accusations are politically motivated. Personally, I have assumed he was a predator for over 40 years. That is why he bought all the beauty pageants and why he was always at the playboy mansion. I disagree. The grab em by the pussy video was everywhere. Everyone saw it. The video of him wanting to date Ivanka, him going into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA. They KNOW it. But the MAGAts that I know say things like "God will judge him, it isn't up to me" But they had no issue judging Clinton, Obama or Biden. Even by the off chance they didn't know in 2016, they did in 2024. Deflecting and blaming others and playing the Jesus card allows them to freely hate without the guilt. Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 42 minutes ago, Kacie said: I disagree. The grab em by the pussy video was everywhere. Everyone saw it. The video of him wanting to date Ivanka, him going into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA. They KNOW it. But the MAGAts that I know say things like "God will judge him, it isn't up to me" But they had no issue judging Clinton, Obama or Biden. Even by the off chance they didn't know in 2016, they did in 2024. Deflecting and blaming others and playing the Jesus card allows them to freely hate without the guilt. They saw the grab em by the pussy video, but will tell you that it was just locker room talk and that he never actually did that. Then they will tell you that "he wasn't lying" so it's OK. I have spoken to people who don't remember the Miss Teen USA and dating Ivanka incidents and think they are just made up. I think there are many who truely don't understand how creepy he is. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: They saw the grab em by the pussy video, but will tell you that it was just locker room talk and that he never actually did that. Then they will tell you that "he wasn't lying" so it's OK. I have spoken to people who don't remember the Miss Teen USA and dating Ivanka incidents and think they are just made up. I think there are many who truely don't understand how creepy he is. AT least some of the Ivanka stuff came from an appearance on Howard Stern, where Stern was having a pretty good time leading him on to see how far he would go. I don't know if they destroyed the tape or buried it once he got into office, but if you saw that (which oddly enough I happened to - probably the only 20 min of Howard Stern I've ever seen) no-one could have claimed people were lying about it. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted July 20 Posted July 20 I don't think MAGA will turn on him because they suddenly discover he is a creep. They will turn on him because he isn't delivering the goods on the deep state conspiracy. Trump was supposed to save America by exposing the deep state and now he's telling them to move on. This is their whole belief system. They are beginning to wonder if he is part of the deep state. The dog finally caught the car. 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 43 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I don't think MAGA will turn on him because they suddenly discover he is a creep. They will turn on him because he isn't delivering the goods on the deep state conspiracy. Trump was supposed to save America by exposing the deep state and now he's telling them to move on. This is their whole belief system. They are beginning to wonder if he is part of the deep state. The dog finally caught the car. Right - this is what Sommers was talking about. It's even OK if he was once a member of the Cabal as long as he was willing to expose it and save America. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On 7/18/2025 at 11:07 PM, Deleterious said: CBS Reportedly Lost $40 Million on Colbert’s Late Show This Year Paramount owns the Ed Sullivan Theatre, so they are probably charging themselves some exorbitant rent for the Late Show; that helps to show a "loss" on paper 2 Quote
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