Trumps Presidency 2025

[Tiger337]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

I'm not sure this has been expressed here by anyone yet, but—this is literally the last chance, isn't it, that any of the criminal and illegal behavior that this guy has clearly engaged in, and clearly still engages in right out in the open, will take him down? I mean, seriously: once he gets away with everyone knowing he sexually abused little girls on a serial basis along with Epstein, and his voters are still accepting of that and supportive of him ... well, that's the end of the line, isn't it? What else is there? Literally nothing can stop him after this, can it? Or am I missing something here? Because we already know he shot someone on Fifth Avenue, right? So, obviously, murder won't do it. 😉 But really, this is the last stop on the line, and if the train doesn't stop here, then aren't we done for? Somebody talk me down from this.

Nothing will ever happen to him.  It rarely does to the rich and powerful.  The only hope is those supporters who want to see others exposed and taken down will get upset when nothing happens to the evil elite pedophile cabal which has taken over the government.   That might be a way for MAGA to be splintered.  

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Edman85 said:

March 2029 after adults are put back in place.

Nothing is going to happen here. Jizzy is going to work with his syndicate to get everything swept under the rug.

They are already actively, openly undermining democracy to prevent March 2029, or January 2029, or January 2027 from taking place. And they have a lot more time to make a lot more progress. 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Nothing will ever happen to him.  It rarely does to the rich and powerful.  The only hope is those supporters who want to see others exposed and taken down will get upset when nothing happens to the evil elite pedophile cabal which has taken over the government.   That might be a way for MAGA to be splintered.  

And then we have a careful-what-you-wish-for situation?

[Tiger337]

10 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And then we have a careful-what-you-wish-for situation?

I wish for MAGA to be voted out of office.  

[chasfh]

14 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I wish for MAGA to be voted out of office.  

So MAGA gets voted out, then they get splintered? Given their open intention to game the system to undermine democracy, that first part will be tricky enough.

[casimir]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Nothing will ever happen to him.  It rarely does to the rich and powerful.  The only hope is those supporters who want to see others exposed and taken down will get upset when nothing happens to the evil elite pedophile cabal which has taken over the government.   That might be a way for MAGA to be splintered.  

I agree, I don't think he'll be forced to deal with the consequences for his actions.  Best case scenario is more within his base finally figure out who he truly is rather than continuously falling for whatever false imagery they have about him.

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

So MAGA gets voted out, then they get splintered? Given their open intention to game the system to undermine democracy, that first part will be tricky enough.

The Democrats have still been winning a lot of elections.  Just not enough of them.  Democracy is not over.    

[Motown Bombers]

The only time the Democrats haven't won elections is head to head against Trump. The Democrats then took the only candidate who beat Trump and got the most votes in history and threw him under the bus because they are smart. 

[RatkoVarda]

Trump will never pay for his crimes. Never.

Looks like Oprah, Bono, Bruce Springsteen and Beyonce are all going to jail per the Orange Moron.

[gehringer_2]

19 hours ago, chasfh said:

I'm not sure this has been expressed here by anyone yet, but—this is literally the last chance, isn't it, that any of the criminal and illegal behavior that this guy has clearly engaged in, and clearly still engages in right out in the open, will take him down? I mean, seriously: once he gets away with everyone knowing he sexually abused little girls on a serial basis along with Epstein, and his voters are still accepting of that and supportive of him ... well, that's the end of the line, isn't it? What else is there? Literally nothing can stop him after this, can it? Or am I missing something here? Because we already know he shot someone on Fifth Avenue, right? So, obviously, murder won't do it. 😉 But really, this is the last stop on the line, and if the train doesn't stop here, then aren't we done for? Somebody talk me down from this.

We have to face the reality that his supporters know what he is and just don't care because he serves their purpose of being against stuff they don't like. David Brooks, now a WaPo refugee at the Atlantic, wrote a piece about the fact that American is now a culture without standards of any kind. We don't care about right or wrong or abstract morality or idealizations of good and evil - everything is transactional. There are no norms that anyone cares about violating. And if Trump gives Trumpers what they want, they could care less what kind of Ogre he may be. The only thing that can put Trumpers off Trump is that they stop seeing him as on their side. which is not the same thing as him being good or evil at all. There is some potential for that happening over the Epstein stuff but probably nowhere near enough to make a significant political difference. 

[Motown Bombers]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

We have to face the reality that his supporters know what he is and just don't care because he serves their purpose of being against stuff they don't like. David Brooks, now a WaPo refugee at the Atlantic, wrote a piece about the fact that American is now a culture without standards of any kind. We don't care about right or wrong or abstract morality or idealizations of good and evil - everything is transactional. There are no norms that anyone cares about violating. And if Trump gives Trumpers what they want, they could care less what kind of Ogre he may be. The only thing that can put Trumpers off Trump is that they stop seeing him as on their side. which is not the same thing as him being good or evil at all. There is some potential for that happening over the Epstein stuff but probably nowhere near enough to make a significant political difference. 

It doesn't take a big fracture of his base to make significant political difference. He won by a small margin and Republicans have a slim lead in the house. 

[Kacie]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

The only time the Democrats haven't won elections is head to head against Trump. The Democrats then took the only candidate who beat Trump and got the most votes in history and threw him under the bus because they are smart. 

Because they couldn't cheat in 2020 due to Covid, it wasn't the candidate necessarily.  They stuck with Biden as long as they could until his debate debacle. 

I'm as pessimistic as anyone, but so far, this has a different feel.  It hasn't gone away, and seems to be growing.  The media, so far, isn't falling for the distractions.  There are a handful of Republicans not letting it go. Will it take Trump down?  Probably not, and it'll probably be the Dem establishment who lets it go because Clinton or some Hollywood donor is on the list.  The other hope is that the walls closing in will stress him out enough for nature to take it's course.

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, Kacie said:

Because they couldn't cheat in 2020 due to Covid, it wasn't the candidate necessarily.  They stuck with Biden as long as they could until his debate debacle. 

I'm as pessimistic as anyone, but so far, this has a different feel.  It hasn't gone away, and seems to be growing.  The media, so far, isn't falling for the distractions.  There are a handful of Republicans not letting it go. Will it take Trump down?  Probably not, and it'll probably be the Dem establishment who lets it go because Clinton or some Hollywood donor is on the list.  The other hope is that the walls closing in will stress him out enough for nature to take it's course.

Who exactly is the “establishment”? 

Edited Sunday at 06:40 PM by Motown Bombers

[chasfh]

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

The Democrats have still been winning a lot of elections.  Just not enough of them.  Democracy is not over.    

As of July, 2025. I don't think the Trump regime is done.

[Tiger337]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

As of July, 2025. I don't think the Trump regime is done.

He is still President and has both houses on his side, so you are correct.  

[1984Echoes]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

We have to face the reality that his supporters know what he is and just don't care because he serves their purpose of being against stuff they don't like. David Brooks, now a WaPo refugee at the Atlantic, wrote a piece about the fact that American is now a culture without standards of any kind. We don't care about right or wrong or abstract morality or idealizations of good and evil - everything is transactional. There are no norms that anyone cares about violating. And if Trump gives Trumpers what they want, they could care less what kind of Ogre he may be. The only thing that can put Trumpers off Trump is that they stop seeing him as on their side. which is not the same thing as him being good or evil at all. There is some potential for that happening over the Epstein stuff but probably nowhere near enough to make a significant political difference. 

So ****ing sad.

And so ****ing true.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[chasfh]

42 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

He is still President and has both houses on his side, so you are correct.  

As well as any number of state houses that are only too willing to do Trump’s bidding and rush-gerrymander electoral maps before the mid-terms. 

[chasfh]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Pocketing bribes? That’s my best off the cuff guess. 

[GalagaGuy]

 

 

Edited Sunday at 09:27 PM by GalagaGuy

[Tigerbomb13]

52 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

 

 

 

[casimir]

3 hours ago, Kacie said:

Because they couldn't cheat in 2020 due to Covid, it wasn't the candidate necessarily.  They stuck with Biden as long as they could until his debate debacle. 

I'm as pessimistic as anyone, but so far, this has a different feel.  It hasn't gone away, and seems to be growing.  The media, so far, isn't falling for the distractions.  There are a handful of Republicans not letting it go. Will it take Trump down?  Probably not, and it'll probably be the Dem establishment who lets it go because Clinton or some Hollywood donor is on the list.  The other hope is that the walls closing in will stress him out enough for nature to take it's course.

If the Dems let it go because Clinton or some other big name is on the list, then shame on them.  And it goes to show both sides as morally bankrupt.

[Motown Bombers]

The Dems don't care about Bill Clinton anymore. This is the same party that stabbed their sitting president in the back. No one is running cover for Clinton. 

[LaceyLou]

12 minutes ago, casimir said:

If the Dems let it go because Clinton or some other big name is on the list, then shame on them.  And it goes to show both sides as morally bankrupt.

Agree. 

Unfortunately it looks like there are many in power who are also morally bankrupt. 

[GalagaGuy]

I wish people would stop with the narrative that after Biden took office, Garland spent 6 months going through the Epstein case and reported the findings to Biden or something.    We have no reason to believe it was given any attention at all during Biden's term.