chasfh Posted September 9 Posted September 9 49 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think it's a crazy notion that Trump was an informant. Thinking that he was an innocent informant is the crazy part. He informs on himself with every accusation he hurls at others. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, chasfh said: The best part will be if/when MAGA goes into decline and the recriminations start, and the red hats will blame liberals/Democrats/you/me for being complicit in allowing a system to evolve to lead to a Trump being elected in the first place. this reminds me of a the column Brooks wrote this week. He defended that he 'can't' be a liberal even now because he doesn't agree with liberal welfare policy. What total naivete in a grown-ass man. If you don't get on the lib side now you aren't going to have the option to debate welfare policy in the future. Idiot. 2 Quote
romad1 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: this reminds me of a the column Brooks wrote this week. He defended that he 'can't' be a liberal even now because he doesn't agree with liberal welfare policy. What total naivete in a grown-ass man. If you don't get on the lib side now you aren't going to have the option to debate welfare policy in the future. Idiot. Tony Gilroy on Charlie Sykes (Sykes was quite the fanboy let me tell you), was basically...when you are in the situation of autocracy threatening democracy (as I'm sure everyone here including the people cheering it on agree) policy differences are out the window. You are at the stage where the only moral position is to fight the autocracy. In Andor, Gilroy used the example of the French Resistance in WWII but there were many others as well where there were all sorts of petty squabbles between factions of the resistance groups. I gather Charles de Gaulle's forces were in gang warfare against communist resistance forces all over London during the run up to D-Day. Brooks is like those Monarchist resistance groups still pining for the Hohenzollern kaiser to return to Germany. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 He had already had his falling out with Epstein before the feds got interested. Quote
Tiger337 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: this reminds me of a the column Brooks wrote this week. He defended that he 'can't' be a liberal even now because he doesn't agree with liberal welfare policy. What total naivete in a grown-ass man. If you don't get on the lib side now you aren't going to have the option to debate welfare policy in the future. Idiot. I think one can get on the save democracy side without embracing welfare. 1 Quote
ewsieg Posted September 9 Posted September 9 https://newrepublic.com/article/200181/ice-raid-hyundai-stupid-cruel I don't disagree with New Republic here, it's stupid and cruel, but I think they are missing the bigger picture. I feel like they are trying to make it an argument between should we go after those working here illegally, or those who hired them to work here illegally. Right now Trump is leveraging his Tariff scare tactic with agreements that if you invest in America, you'll get a pass, or at least you'll be better off than others. These South Koreans weren't permanent workers in Georgia, they were here because of a broken immigration system that can't process these workers in a realistic time frame. They weren't here 'taking our jobs', but helping get a plant online and training locals that would be working here. It's the Trump admin cutting off its nose to spite its face. There is zero chance they get the immigration thing fixed either, they have no interest in doing so. How ironic/crazy would it be if in 50 years kids are reading in textbooks that Trumps tariff plan was actually successful and did spur the activity he wanted, but his own immigration plan suffocated it and never allowed it to come to fruition. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 41 minutes ago, ewsieg said: or those who hired them to work here illegally. The Hyundai raid may be have been the dumbest one yet. But more generally, have they yet fined or even brought a single employer to court? This is exactly analogous to drugs and pushers. You can bust all the pushers you want, but as long as there are users, new ones will arise in their place because the profit is worth the risk from enforcement. You can bust and deport all the workers you want, as long as there is no effective penalty for hiring them, the profit from low wage workers is higher than any cost they bear from enforcement - (which only seems to fall on the workers). So the jobs for undocumented workers remain, and If the jobs stay, they will keep drawing illegal workers, who in the end will fail to be dissuaded from coming by all the depravity ICE throws at them for that purpose, because humans will just put up with whatever they have to put up with to support themselves and their families. 1 Quote
smr-nj Posted September 9 Posted September 9 52 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Well that’s pretty damn awful. Quote
Edman85 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 (edited) I've got family in that general area of Poland... Beyond the NATO of it all. Edited September 10 by Edman85 Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 BOO YA! Post by @cramer-1.bsky.social — Bluesky ✨Cramer©️ @cramer-1.bsky.social Follow Democrat James Walkinshaw wins Virginia’s 11th District special election. With this win, Republican breathing room in Congress just got tighter. 💙 September 10, 2025 at 6:08 AM Everybody can reply 1 Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 minute ago, romad1 said: BOO YA! Post by @cramer-1.bsky.social — Bluesky ✨Cramer©️ @cramer-1.bsky.social Follow Democrat James Walkinshaw wins Virginia’s 11th District special election. With this win, Republican breathing room in Congress just got tighter. 💙 September 10, 2025 at 6:08 AM Everybody can reply You know this was a district of pissed off federal workers who work at the various three letter security organizations as well as the National Science Foundation and other areas ravaged by Project 2025 and Thielism. Quote
Edman85 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 Won the seat pretty handily last year, though, so I don't see what the big deal is? This is a hold that is being portrayed as a flip. Granted the seat has been vacant since May. Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 29 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Won the seat pretty handily last year, though, so I don't see what the big deal is? This is a hold that is being portrayed as a flip. Granted the seat has been vacant since May. Its my district. It was not expected to be anything but a route but it was definitively a route. 75-25. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: Won the seat pretty handily last year, though, so I don't see what the big deal is? This is a hold that is being portrayed as a flip. Granted the seat has been vacant since May. It an over performance of about 10 points, which follows a trend we have been seeing since the election. This is also good news for the governor election coming up in November. Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: It an over performance of about 10 points, which follows a trend we have been seeing since the election. This is also good news for the governor election coming up in November. The GOP nom for gov is also a raving lunatic defending the immolation of the state economy in defense of the infallible leader. It won't help that she's a minority trying to sell her immigration hard work story to the MAGAs. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted September 10 Posted September 10 Flipping Virginia is going to be interesting. The congressional delegation is 6-5 in favor of Dems, but Dems can gerrymander it to counter republicans. Also need to hold New Jersey to counter gerrymandering. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted September 10 Posted September 10 9 minutes ago, romad1 said: The GOP nom for gov is also a raving lunatic defending the immolation of the state economy in defense of the infallible leader. It won't help that she's a minority trying to sell her immigration hard work story to the MAGAs. Sears has been out funded by a large margin. No one on the ticket likes the Lt Gov nominee. Youngkin has been extremely silent so far this campaign. Miyares is down by 6 points in the latest poling. I find it interesting that a lot of the usual spots where you expect Republican yard signs are empty. Spanberger has several sings in Republican strongholds on the Northern Neck Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Sears has been out funded by a large margin. No one on the ticket likes the Lt Gov nominee. Youngkin has been extremely silent so far this campaign. Miyares is down by 6 points in the latest poling. I find it interesting that a lot of the usual spots where you expect Republican yard signs are empty. Spanberger has several sings in Republican strongholds on the Northern Neck every generation throws a non-viable minority GOP candidate up to show they aren't racist. Edited September 10 by romad1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted September 10 Posted September 10 Just now, romad1 said: every generation throws a non-viable minority GOP candidate up to show they aren't racist. Michigan is going to do it a third time. Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Michigan is going to do it a third time. I remember the very racist dem guy coming into Joe Knollenberg's district office circa 1991 to complain about William Lucas running for gov. Seems like that was way after Blanchard lost to Engler. I guess he was still mad about it. Quote
Edman85 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 hour ago, romad1 said: every generation throws a non-viable minority GOP candidate up to show they aren't racist. Does this include state Surgeons General or does Byron Donalds check that box for my state? Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 My wife was both amused and disgusted by this one. Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 basically...the tell in the birthday card is the girl's boobs and hips are so girlish not womanly. Quote
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