Trumps Presidency 2025

[guy incognito]

Say, it almost seems as though blowing up civilian boats and prepping for war against Venezuela, Somalia, etc, isn’t actually about what we’re being told it’s about.

[guy incognito]

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Imagine if Obama did this

 

I still don’t understand why they don’t simply lie about the number. Who could stop them or make them pay for it?

[gehringer_2]

59 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I still don’t understand why they don’t simply lie about the number. Who could stop them or make them pay for it?

Predictable but futile. Once people are tuned into watching prices, which they are today, you can't hide it. In fact inflation is the one place where the public's private sense perception is probably always going to be even worse than the actual numbers (as Biden found out).

Well, MTG should have a field day with this.

Edited 10 hours ago by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, guy incognito said:

Say, it almost seems as though blowing up civilian boats and prepping for war against Venezuela, Somalia, etc, isn’t actually about what we’re being told it’s about.

Well of course. That's were the money is. What other felons are as well positioned to make a major payoff.?

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Predictable but futile. Once people are tuned into watching prices, which they are today, you can't hide it. In fact inflation is the one place where the public's private sense perception is probably always going to be even worse than the actual numbers (as Biden found out).

Well, MTG should have a field day with this.

Well, at least he would at least have a third of the country, including probably two-thirds of all white people of modest education and means, rejecting what their lyin' eyes are telling them, and then people can gainsay each other about what the truth actually is, which is Trump's sweet spot for dividing the people against each other.

[CMRivdogs]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

Garbage to be replaced with worse garbage. 

Glenn Youngkin might be a slight step up. Another rich CEO who got pushed out. He was also mediocre at best as governor

[gehringer_2]

9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Well, at least he would at least have a third of the country, including probably two-thirds of all white people of modest education and means, rejecting what their lyin' eyes are telling them, and then people can gainsay each other about what the truth actually is, which is Trump's sweet spot for dividing the people against each other.

We can only hope the division starts doing the dividing inside MAGA. Seriously, if MTG can pull a few more of her ilk into the attempt at a new coalition it might get interesting. You go girrrl.

I've got time and popcorn.

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[CMRivdogs]

2 hours ago, guy incognito said:

Say, it almost seems as though blowing up civilian boats and prepping for war against Venezuela, Somalia, etc, isn’t actually about what we’re being told it’s about.

Jonathan Last with another good analysis of the junta's lies.

 https://www.thebulwark.com/p/donald-trump-and-the-power-of-the-little-lie?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=87281&post_id=181035497&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=45wcm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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And here’s the key: 90 percent of the cocaine sold in America originates in Colombia and transits to America over land routes through Mexico. Here’s how it moves, courtesy of the United Nations:

Cocaine moved through Venezuela transits to other Caribbean countries en route, and eventually to Europe. (Cocaine use has risen spectacularly in Europe over the last decade to the point where Europe is a major global consumer. Cocaine is now the second-most popular drug in Europe, behind marijuana.)

The shipwreck survivors whom the U.S. military killed in the war crime case currently under discussion were bound not for the United States but for Suriname, and eventually points east

So: We’re talking about cocaine, not fentanyl. And the drugs in the boats being blown up are headed to Europe, not America. 

But what about saving 25,000 lives with each boat strike?

How many Americans do you think die of drug overdoses each year? In 2023, the number was 105,007. That’s total.

Cocaine overdose deaths have increased since 2015. In 2023, 29,449 Americans died from cocaine use.1 I suppose if Trump could blow up 1.2 boats worth of cocaine that was heading to America, that number would drop to zero. 🙄

People could only take “we’re saving 25,000 lives with each boat strike” seriously if they were innumerate.

I understand that fentanyl has become the most important subject in the world (after child trafficking) for Republicans. But I suspect most people do not understand that only 72,226 people died from fentanyl overdoses in 2023. Fentanyl deaths had been rising in America since 2013, but went truly out of control during Trump’s first term.

Did anyone stop to think about how ludicrous it is to say that one boat’s worth of anything could kill 25,000 people?

Just for fun: In order to kill 25,000 people in Dallas, Texas, you’d need to annihilate 6.57 square miles.3 To accomplish that you’d need something like 1,600 tons of conventional ordinance dropped on the area.4

If a boatload of cocaine could achieve the same results as 1,600 tons of explosives, then I promise you that China would be paying the cartels to send free cocaine to America instead of building nukes and aircraft carriers.5

“Saving 25,000 lives” relies on the kind of innumeracy that led people to believe that, when Trump talked about deporting 20 million people, he would be targeting only criminals, rapists, etc.

There are only 2 million people in American prisons, total. Just how many criminals did you think there were, Cletus?

 

[romad1]

10 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Glenn Youngkin might be a slight step up. Another rich CEO who got pushed out. He was also mediocre at best as governor

He had Winsome Sears as his LG

[CMRivdogs]

15 minutes ago, romad1 said:

He had Winsome Sears as his LG

She won the primary as I recall. Can't remember who she ran against on 2021. Was very uninspiring as a Gubernatorial candidate. Trump barely gave her an endorsement. 

[chasfh]

On 12/6/2025 at 6:16 PM, oblong said:

I’m trying to figure out what Juneteenth and MLK Day have in common.
 Can someone help me out?

Nope. Couldn't do it.

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[guy incognito]

[guy incognito]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Nope. Couldn't do it.

You’re going to have to get black to us on that, huh?

[guy incognito]

Edited 8 hours ago by guy incognito

[CMRivdogs]

Not surprising...every accusation is an admittance of guilt of some kind

Trump’s Own Mortgages Match His Description of Mortgage Fraud, Records Reveal

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-mortgage-fraud-florida-principal-residences?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailynewsletter&utm_content=feature

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In 1993, Trump signed a mortgage for a “Bermuda style” home in Palm Beach, Florida, pledging that it would be his principal residence. Just seven weeks later, he got another mortgage for a seven-bedroom, marble-floored neighboring property, attesting that it too would be his principal residence.

In reality, Trump, then a New Yorker, does not appear to have ever lived in either home, let alone used them as a principal residence. Instead, the two houses, which are next to his historic Mar-a-Lago estate, were used as investment properties and rented out, according to contemporaneous news accounts and an interview with his longtime real estate agent — exactly the sort of scenario his administration has pointed to as evidence of fraud. 

At the time of the purchases, Trump’s local real estate agent told the Miami Herald that the businessman had “hired an expensive New York design firm” to “dress them up to the nines and lease them out annually.” In an interview, Shirley Wyner, the late real estate agent’s wife and business partner who was herself later the rental agent for the two properties, told ProPublica: “They were rentals from the beginning.” Wyner, who has worked with the Trump family for years, added: “President Trump never lived there.”

 

[guy incognito]

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Tigerbomb13]

You couldn’t define a group of open bigots even more if you tried. 
 

Speaking of, this guy that had a Nazi symbol in one of campaign ads years ago posted about *four* randomly chosen people. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Tigerbomb13