Trumps Presidency 2025

[Screwball]

Venezuela is all about oil. Simple as that. That's been the plan since we needed oil. Also why the POS Marco Rubio was confirmed 99-0 as the person to make that happen.

For every unit of growth, it takes a unit of energy. And now we have all these data centers!!! Git-r-done!

No energy, no growth. Physics can be a bitch.

[1984Echoes]

10 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

Right there...

"Trump - to obtrude or deceive."

[CMRivdogs]

 

[gehringer_2]

41 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

 

How about them apples?

Just the facts, Ma'am.

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Trump's Pretzel Logic:

Most of the oil companies that suffered (lost ALL of their investment and were kicked out of Venezuela) when Hugo Chavez nationalized their oil were American oil companies.

Therefore... Maduro "stole" our oil (what we had/owned in Venezuela) and is justification for Trump's actions.

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:50 AM by 1984Echoes

[gehringer_2]

IIRC corectly, early on it was Exxon that was in the middle of the argument over embargoing Vz oil because they had spent big $$ to outfit at least one of their gulf coast refineries to run it (it's very heavy stock - fairly unique processing requirements) and were unhappy about  the prospect of having an unusable multi-billion $ investment if the flow from VZ stopped. That was a number of years ago when Maduro was beginning to make himself an outcast, but that's the kind situation where money, corporate political pull and Secretaries of State that are ex Oil Co CEO's reduce the likely hood that the US is actually going to pursue productive foreign policies.

Edited yesterday at 02:13 AM by gehringer_2

[Sports_Freak]

59 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Trump's Pretzel Logic:

Most of the oil companies that suffered (lost ALL of their investment and were kicked out of Venezuela) when Hugo Chavez nationalized their oil were American oil companies.

Therefore... Maduro "stole" our oil (what we had/owned in Venezuela) and is justification for Trump's actions.

 

 

 

So he started out using drugs as his excuse for murdering..drug smugglers? With no proof that they were smuggling drugs? It a boat that wouldn't even make it to the US? Just plain...murder. Donald Trump and others in his administration are criminals. They've committed war crimes.

[casimir]

On 12/15/2025 at 12:04 PM, Tigerbomb13 said:

@Tigeraholic1? @Archie?

The silence is deafening, isn't it?

[Tigermojo]

The maga response is Trump has consistently hated Reiner so he's just being consistent which is good right? 

[Tigermojo]

TDS is made up by Trump for his own benefit.  As a narcissist,  he can never admit to being wrong. It would shatter his ego. Inside he is an abused child who lost all emotion and empathy.  He has zero self esteem. To make up for that he has to be grandiose and lie to everyone, including himself.  If he were truthful with himself that he is the problem sometimes, he would become that boy with no self esteem.  Therefore anyone who disagrees with him must be deranged because the alternative is not possible in his mind.

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

2008 all over again?

 

Of course Trump thinks this is the greatest economy in history. That guy is cleaning up.

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

I’m pretty sure Trump’s talking about the oil under Venezuela soil that American companies started taking after it was discovered there in the 1910s, then Venezuela booted them out in the 1970s.

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

there are a hundred ways the US could be working within existing norms and institutions to bring US power to bear to remove Maduro with international legal backing. Instead he doing everything humanly possible to be the bad guy and turn Maduro into the victim.

Trump despises norms and institutions because they serve to constrain his worst immoral and antisocial impulses. Norms and institutions are for suckers and losers, people with no balls.

Trump is sending a message to everyone in the world: we are the biggest, baddest mother****ers on this planet, and we have a divine right to control everything and everyone on it, especially you. Dare to complain or push back in any way and we’re gonna destroy you, too.

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Trump despises norms and institutions because they serve to constrain his worst immoral and antisocial impulses. Norms and institutions are for suckers and losers, people with no balls.

Trump is sending a message to everyone in the world: we are the biggest, baddest mother****ers on this planet, and we have a divine right to control everything and everyone on it, especially you. Dare to complain or push back in any way and we’re gonna destroy you, too.

"it all ends in tears, these arrangements usually do"

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Not at all. Donald Trump wants to be a war time President like Bush was because he thinks it will make him more popular. Wartime Presidents often start out popular and then see their popularity plummet once the war goes south. In Trump's case, no serious American outside of the kool-aid drinking base see's Venezuela has a threat the way Americans were conditions to see Saddam and Iraq as a threat. On top of that, he has neocons in his administration and big oil executives who are itching for a war to get their hands on Venezuelan oil reserves. It's Iraq all over again and the drugs from Venezuela are the new WMDs.

We just might see Baghdad Don on TV telling us why we have to go to war in the coming weeks with Venezuela and telling us what a great job we are doing in the war once it starts.

Trump wants to be all things to all people at the same time. He wants to be both the president who satisfies most people by keeping us out of war unlike those RINOs and Democrats, and be the guy who thrills soldier sniffers with the rapacious overseas adventures they crave.

This is not unlike Jesus who is also all things to all people—he’s the Prince of Peace to most Catholics and mainline Christians, and, at the same time, the ass-kicking no-prisoner-taking architect of the Apocalypse to the evangelicals. 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

So he started out using drugs as his excuse for murdering..drug smugglers? With no proof that they were smuggling drugs? It a boat that wouldn't even make it to the US? Just plain...murder. Donald Trump and others in his administration are criminals. They've committed war crimes.

Murdering drug smugglers? I thought Trump was pardoning drug smugglers? 🤔

[romad1]

Miriam Adelson offers Donald Trump $250m for 2028 run | The Jerusalem Post

Alan Dershowitz had better work on Trump's 3rd term or he's going to jail. 

[chasfh]

56 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

TDS is made up by Trump for his own benefit.  As a narcissist,  he can never admit to being wrong. It would shatter his ego. Inside he is an abused child who lost all emotion and empathy.  He has zero self esteem. To make up for that he has to be grandiose and lie to everyone, including himself.  If he were truthful with himself that he is the problem sometimes, he would become that boy with no self esteem.  Therefore anyone who disagrees with him must be deranged because the alternative is not possible in his mind.

TDS has been fully embraced by Trump as a nice little cudgel, although I don’t think he could ever have come up with it, because he truly has no innate idea people could ever not love or respect him, except for mentally disabled (or, as he and MAGA would say, “retarded”) people. I think someone had to come up with it for him to explain to him how anyone could ever not love him.

[chasfh]

5 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Miriam Adelson offers Donald Trump $250m for 2028 run | The Jerusalem Post

Alan Dershowitz had better work on Trump's 3rd term or he's going to jail. 

If he’s even allowed to run, then democracy and the Constitution are literally over. At that point it will be Xi, Putin, and Trump explicitly carving up the world among them, and EU Europe will basically become the Warsaw ghetto.

[romad1]

30 minutes ago, chasfh said:

If he’s even allowed to run, then democracy and the Constitution are literally over. At that point it will be Xi, Putin, and Trump explicitly carving up the world among them, and EU Europe will basically become the Warsaw ghetto.

one of those areas Orwell identified as constantly in conflict.  He had Eurasia basically starting at the French coast though. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

44 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Miriam Adelson offers Donald Trump $250m for 2028 run | The Jerusalem Post

Alan Dershowitz had better work on Trump's 3rd term or he's going to jail. 

Insane! If he does run, and I think he will, Barack Obama has a civic and moral duty to also run again. I would prefer a President far more to the left of Barack Obama. But at that point, with democracy and The Constitution in complete crisis and likely dead, we'd need someone like Obama who is the closet thing Democrats have to a guaranteed victory.

[1984Echoes]

4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Insane! If he does run, and I think he will, Barack Obama has a civic and moral duty to also run again. I would prefer a President far more to the left of Barack Obama. But at that point, with democracy and The Constitution in complete crisis and likely dead, we'd need someone like Obama who is the closet thing Democrats have to a guaranteed victory.

If Trump can run in 2028, Obama can run in 2028.

[chasfh]

29 minutes ago, romad1 said:

one of those areas Orwell identified as constantly in conflict.  He had Eurasia basically starting at the French coast though. 

Perhaps because world war was being waged there during ten of the previous 34 years.

[RatkoVarda]

13 hours ago, Screwball said:

Venezuela is all about oil. Simple as that. That's been the plan since we needed oil. Also why the POS Marco Rubio was confirmed 99-0 as the person to make that happen.

For every unit of growth, it takes a unit of energy. And now we have all these data centers!!! Git-r-done!

No energy, no growth. Physics can be a bitch.

I was told that the black lady was going to send American kids off to another foreign war, so we had no choice but to vote for the rapist.

[romad1]

9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Perhaps because world war was being waged there during ten of the previous 34 years.

He had spent a considerable amount of time arguing for the second front in his essays.  His is an amazing body of work.  I recommend!