gehringer_2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 48 minutes ago, romad1 said: Don't blame the bomb, blame the guy sending the bombs. In the early 2000's they were studying low yield nukes for bunker busting because they had pretty much given up on the idea that any conventional weapon could work on a properly hardened deep target. Eventually that was spiked because you couldn't get the warhead deep enough to contain a massive release of fallout - which was the initial thesis. So they went back to the drawing board on conventionals. According to reports today they are using a new intermediate size GBU72 because GBU109 apparently wasn't enough. The big bertha GBU-72 has limited supply and can only be delivered by the B-2, making it massively expensive to use. Dropping each of those probably costs more than digging the hole it collapses. I'm pretty confident the mass media reporting about these things conflates maximum theoretical potential performance with likely real world outcomes. Edited 2 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, gehringer_2 said: In the early 2000's they were studying low yield nukes for bunker busting because they had pretty much given up on the idea that any conventional weapon could work on a properly hardened deep target. Eventually that was spiked because you couldn't get the warhead deep enough to contain a massive release of fallout - which was the initial thesis. So they went back to the drawing board on conventionals. According to reports today they are using a new intermediate size GBU72 because GBU109 apparently wasn't enough. The big bertha GBU-72 has limited supply and can only be delivered by the B-2, making it massively expensive to use. Dropping each of those probably costs more than digging the hole it collapses. I worked this selection process inside the bowels of the Pentagon. There were some insane submissions. Some really effective solutions and some involving things that would seem too fantastic for the Frank Herbert "Dune" series. As part of that I went out to Nevada Test Site and got a look at some of the tests. Fun stuff. Although Las Vegas, for work, by yourself is kinda depressing. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago Can you imagine the outcry from the right if department heads from the Obama, Biden or even the Clinton Administrations had posted stuff like this on line. Our country is now being run by guys (mostly) who are still into video games they played when they were teenagers... https://bsky.app/profile/sarahposner.bsky.social/post/3mhqiinicrc2j Quote
Hongbit Posted 7 minutes ago Posted 7 minutes ago (edited) 48 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Can you imagine the outcry from the right if department heads from the Obama, Biden or even the Clinton Administrations had posted stuff like this on line. Our country is now being run by guys (mostly) who are still into video games they played when they were teenagers... https://bsky.app/profile/sarahposner.bsky.social/post/3mhqiinicrc2j The maga retort to this is always something stupid along the lines of… Because of the weak leadership of Biden, Obama, and Hillary (even though she never actually led), we needed a tough President that is not politically correct in order to get things done in liberal infested D.C. Edited 7 minutes ago by Hongbit Quote
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