Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

It's out there. Most are no longer on my feed after blocking many of them...I'll link some of the lies when I come across them for you to see. I'm not sure how influential they are to other people, I usually don't believe many of the things they say without looking it up and seeing collaboration. And yes, the outrageous rightwing lies are much worse (space lasers...controlling the weather)  but I stand by my statement that Twitter has many false tweets from the left that are just looking to build outrage.

That's fair, and I look forward to seeing it. Remember, though, none of it means anything without influence. What's make the right-wing social blowtorches so much worse is not the mere brazenness of the lies, but the influence they have at the very top of that Party. Many tweets coming from accounts managed by nobodies is not going to have anywhere near the same effect as just a few tweets managed by internet personalities who have been elevated by TPTB to somebodies.

[Motown Bombers]

6 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

NAFTA was an unmitigated disaster. It's amazing that you could live in a manufacturing state, hallowed out in part by NAFTA, and not agree with Bernie on that. We lost over 25,000 jobs here in the auto industry alone according to Economic Policy Institute data because of NAFTA.

I didn’t say I agreed or disagreed but that Trump picked up that talking point from Sanders. The more egregious think is Sanders is still dabbling in election denialism. 

[Motown Bombers]

The biggest disinformation influencers on the left target their disinformation at normie Dems instead of Republicans. Rat****ing is more lucrative than attacking Republicans. 

[Sports_Freak]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That's fair, and I look forward to seeing it. Remember, though, none of it means anything without influence. What's make the right-wing social blowtorches so much worse is not the mere brazenness of the lies, but the influence they have at the very top of that Party. Many tweets coming from accounts managed by nobodies is not going to have anywhere near the same effect as just a few tweets managed by internet personalities who have been elevated by TPTB to somebodies.

An example, maybe you've seen? A meme going around, for years, still gets tweeted and retweeted by hundreds of people every time it's tweeted. The meme that claims Trump says if he ever were to run for president, he would run as a republican because they're stupid and easy to fool. Or some such nonsense. But it's totally fake. And I'm sure you've seen that one.

[Tigerbomb13]

When you start a war to distract from the Epstein files, but the war is such a disaster that you pivot back to the Epstein files to distract from the war.

[Tigermojo]

Look Greenland! 

[LaceyLou]

22 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

 

 

 

He must have seen The Money Pit.... 

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Look Greenland! 

aRtiC SqUiRrEL!

 

[TJ Rollercoaster]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

 

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

When their lips are moving, it usually means they are lying. I would suspect that we will find out that her relationship with Epstein is far more than just a casual email correspondence with someone that her husband was best friends with. She was dating Trump in the same time frame that he was still friends with Epstein in the early 2000s. So it is plausible that she knew him well enough.

[LaceyLou]

5 hours ago, TJ Rollercoaster said:

 

UGH. There isn't a word vile enough to describe how much I detest this, this.... whatever he is. 

[GalagaGuy]

Why is some washed up hooker on my TV talking about Epstein?  I've been out of the loop for a few hours.  

[romad1]

 

or perhaps she did

[guy incognito]

[guy incognito]

Huh.

https://www.newsweek.com/list-dead-or-missing-scientists-suspicious-michael-david-hicks-11805585
 

Edited 8 hours ago by guy incognito

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

An example, maybe you've seen? A meme going around, for years, still gets tweeted and retweeted by hundreds of people every time it's tweeted. The meme that claims Trump says if he ever were to run for president, he would run as a republican because they're stupid and easy to fool. Or some such nonsense. But it's totally fake. And I'm sure you've seen that one.

I may have. I honestly can't remember. Share a link to anything you see if you come across one. Thanks.

[chasfh]

Newsweek and Daily Mail do seem to be peas in a pod these days. Remember when the former was up there with Time and U.S. News & World Report?

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Newsweek and Daily Mail do seem to be peas in a pod these days. Remember when the former was up there with Time and U.S. News & World Report?

when they were part of the Washington Post they were doing better work than either of those two, but that didn't sell enough magazines. The US is no place to get rich doing quality journalism.

[Tiger337]

4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

An example, maybe you've seen? A meme going around, for years, still gets tweeted and retweeted by hundreds of people every time it's tweeted. The meme that claims Trump says if he ever were to run for president, he would run as a republican because they're stupid and easy to fool. Or some such nonsense. But it's totally fake. And I'm sure you've seen that one.

That is probably partially true.  He didn't say it publicly, but I am confident that he has thought about it!

Edited 5 hours ago by Tiger337

[Sports_Freak]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

That is probably partially true.  He didn't say it publicly, but I am confident that he has thought about it!

Agreed. But the meme claimed he said it in an interview. Never happened.

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

Agreed. But the meme claimed he said it in an interview. Never happened.

I was joking.  Partially!

[Sports_Freak]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

That's fair, and I look forward to seeing it. Remember, though, none of it means anything without influence. What's make the right-wing social blowtorches so much worse is not the mere brazenness of the lies, but the influence they have at the very top of that Party. Many tweets coming from accounts managed by nobodies is not going to have anywhere near the same effect as just a few tweets managed by internet personalities who have been elevated by TPTB to somebodies.

Almost 2000 reposts. People eating it up....lies.

Edited 4 hours ago by Sports_Freak

[Sports_Freak]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

That's fair, and I look forward to seeing it. Remember, though, none of it means anything without influence. What's make the right-wing social blowtorches so much worse is not the mere brazenness of the lies, but the influence they have at the very top of that Party. Many tweets coming from accounts managed by nobodies is not going to have anywhere near the same effect as just a few tweets managed by internet personalities who have been elevated by TPTB to somebodies.

 

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

I was joking.  Partially!

Yeah, you were the one who pointed it out to me it was fake several years ago. Back when I was more gullible. 

[oblong]

6 hours ago, chasfh said:

The impact it has is the whole ballgame. It's the only reason to even have this discussion in the first place.

Who cares what some left-wing loonspud with 116 followers says? Do you regard them as representative of the Democratic Party? I sure don't. Certainly not in the same way right wing social media with massive followings represents the Republican Party, spouting lies and disinformation that not only directly influence actual policy being made by the Trump administration, but they've actually infiltrated our government. That, my friend, is impact worth discussing.

Show me anyone on the left like that, then let's talk about it.

The problem is you have a very narrow, and self defined, definition of “the left”. You’ve done this before where you pretend your sides **** doesn’t stink sometimes.  And that’s objectively not true.  And I say this as an adoptive member of the left. Yet I am sometimes reminded why I previously wasn’t.  The idea of “impact” and “reach” isn’t quite relevant because most of the reach by the right is an ideological bubble so whether it’s 10,000 or 1M, the same number of votes take place.