Trumps Presidency 2025

[Tigerbomb13]

37 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

Jesus Christ. He’s sure out of his depth with this job, isn’t he?

[romad1]

6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Slotkin is one of my dark horse picks for president. 

On the Synth Britannia documentary large-framed singer Alyson Moyet referred to herself as "Dark horse from Basildon" meaning not someone you would think was attractive.  

its somewhere in here

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Tigerbomb13]

Exhibit #8484895959 of these assholes’ sole agenda is the cruelty itself. 

[smr-nj]

I’m wondering why we’re even having these discussions anymore.

More and more It’s feeling like “stick a fork in us; we’re done.”

[Tiger337]

16 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

I’m wondering why we’re even having these discussions anymore.

More and more It’s feeling like “stick a fork in us; we’re done.”

On the bright side, the No Kings protests were very successful last weekend.  You need 3.5% of the population participating in mass protects in order to create change.  Obviously MAGA is going to double down, but if there is enough dissent, some of the more moderate congress people will get concerned and may distance themselves from Trump.  By the way, I did go to my local protest and it wasn't just three old ladies and two hippies!  It was more like 300 people.  There were hundreds of thousands protesting in Boston.   

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Slotkin is one of my dark horse picks for president. 

If a woman runs as a Democrat for the third time and loses for the third time, we won’t have a Democratic Party woman president for at least fifty years after that. I’m thinking we’re more likely to have a woman Republican become president first.

[guy incognito]

1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

Exhibit #8484895959 of these assholes’ sole agenda is the cruelty itself. 

Yep

[gehringer_2]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’m thinking we’re more likely to have a woman Republican become president first.

I agree this is more likely than the Dems electing one.

[gehringer_2]

Where does he even get this stuff? Bringing back Mesothelioma is going to make America great again? Asbestos has been pretty successfully replaced everywhere it was ever used and no-one is the worse for it. But it's Trump, and even if he did reverse the controls, who would be fool enough to open an asbestos mine? Then again, they still mine the stuff in Russia so maybe he's just in the tank for another buddy of Putin.

[guy incognito]

9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I agree this is more likely than the Dems electing one.

Although, given the patriarchal Christian fundamentalists in the GOP base, it’s probably not that much more likely.

[Tiger337]

if the Democrats won't vote for a woman, why do you guys think the Republicans would vote for a woman? I am having a hard time understanding that.  The only fair election involving women was in 2016.  2024 was not a good barometer because Harris had only a few months to campaign and was not even elected.  So, it's not fair to say that they lost twice.    

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Is there a business lobby that has a financial interest in asbestos coming back? Dow Chemical? DuPont? Who the hell is even lobbying to bring back asbestos? Or does Trump and his far right minions see this as some sort "bad government overreach" in the same way that they hate paper straws? Like, using asbestos in the construction of homes, office buildings, industrial facilities, retail stores, etc. should be allowed on the basis of personal freedom. Who the **** wants asbestos back?

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Is there a business lobby that has a financial interest in asbestos coming back? Dow Chemical? DuPont? Who the hell is even lobbying to bring back asbestos? Or does Trump and his far right minions see this as some sort "bad government overreach" in the same way that they hate paper straws? Like, using asbestos in the construction of homes, office buildings, industrial facilities, retail stores, etc. should be allowed on the basis of personal freedom. Who the **** wants asbestos back?

After digging around a bit, the devil here could be in the details. There have been a few specialty areas like nuclear power plants, where chrysotile asbestos use is still allowed. The EPA has begun/is beginning (not sure of the dates) a phase down on those. Reversing that might be all they are talking about and wouldn't be a change from the status quo.

As bad as this admin is, it doesn't help when opposition media run with a hair on fire story that then turns out to be less than it appeared. I don't know if that is the case here but it happens enough I wouldn't exclude the possibility without more detail than social media supplies.

Edited 14 hours ago by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

48 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

if the Democrats won't vote for a woman, why do you guys think the Republicans would vote for a woman? I am having a hard time understanding that.  The only fair election involving women was in 2016.  2024 was not a good barometer because Harris had only a few months to campaign and was not even elected.  So, it's not fair to say that they lost twice.    

If she's a complete warmongering hardass like Elise Stefanik, I can see it happening.

[chasfh]

49 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

if the Democrats won't vote for a woman, why do you guys think the Republicans would vote for a woman? I am having a hard time understanding that.  The only fair election involving women was in 2016.  2024 was not a good barometer because Harris had only a few months to campaign and was not even elected.  So, it's not fair to say that they lost twice.    

To the degree that the woman with the most votes in 2016 lost, and the woman who ran a truncated campaign in 2024 lost, if a woman runs in 2028 and loses again, you and I will not live to see a Democratic woman elected president. 

[gehringer_2]

51 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

if the Democrats won't vote for a woman, why do you guys think the Republicans would vote for a woman? I am having a hard time understanding that.  The only fair election involving women was in 2016.  2024 was not a good barometer because Harris had only a few months to campaign and was not even elected.  So, it's not fair to say that they lost twice.    

Because approval by the leadership of the party means that woman is 'OK'. The personality profile that draws one to the conservative side is by nature more amenable to acceptance of the judgement of authority. 

[Tigerbomb13]

MAKE MESOTHELIOMA GREAT AGAIN!!!

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

Because approval by the leadership of the party means that woman is 'OK'. The personality profile that draws one to the conservative side is by nature more amenable to acceptance of the judgement of authority. 

But they first have to elect a woman in the primaries and I think the Democrats are more like to do that than Republicans.  

[Hongbit]

1 hour ago, guy incognito said:

Yep

I feel bad for the folks at The Onion.  

Their job of creating ridiculous tweets that can’t be believed has gotten increasingly harder in this administration.  

[gehringer_2]

20 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

But they first have to elect a woman in the primaries and I think the Democrats are more like to do that than Republicans.  

yeah it's a balance between the product of two low probabilities vs the product of one more moderate and one apparently very low probability. 🤷‍♂️

Edited 13 hours ago by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

If our old friend were still around, I'd be asking him what this administration's plan is to deal with this looming crisis.

I'd honestly just settle for actual journalists asking members of the administration at this point... 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[mtutiger]

Well, if ol' Senator Twonames is saying it, it must be true haha

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

To the degree that the woman with the most votes in 2016 lost, and the woman who ran a truncated campaign in 2024 lost, if a woman runs in 2028 and loses again, you and I will not live to see a Democratic woman elected president. 

Is that because they won't allow a woman to run again?  If that's the case, then I'll stop voting.