Trumps Presidency 2025

[oblong]

12 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Susie Wiles is the daughter of Pat Summerall. 

[GalagaGuy]

I told myself a few years ago that the day Trump died, I was walking up to the bar and buying a round of drinks.  After reading his post on Rob Reiner, I might just walk around to all the bars in downtown Plymouth doing the same.  What an absolute pure and total piece of trash that loser is. 

[smr-nj]

We are lost.  There will be not one person who are following him now ever stepping back. 
You can see that, can’t you?

[gehringer_2]

Trump will end up being like Vichy France or the Vietnam War. After WWII ended every Frenchman claimed to have hated Vichy and supported le Resistance, almost all imaginary. By 1980 in the US you couldn't find anyone that admitted having supported the war in SE Asia even though Nixon won the election on a pure hawk platform. In 15 yrs you won't be able find anyone who will admit to have voted for Trump. They will expunge it from their ledgers.

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[Dan Gilmore]

I see your point, but as they say, the internet is forever. Receipts are out there.

[Hongbit]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Trump can Lick My Love Pump

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

I see your point, but as they say, the internet is forever. Receipts are out there.

well, there is nothing I'd love to see more than for Trumpers to have to have to win back their standing in decent society by making their appearances before an American version of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to explain what they were thinking.

Well, a guy can dream.

[Tigermojo]

7 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

I see your point, but as they say, the internet is forever. Receipts are out there.

Five years of social media history please. We have a Trump supporter!  Deport to North Korea! 

[gehringer_2]

And it's not only Trump exposing himself as a terrible person, it's the fact that it's demonstrating the loss of supervisory function in his psyche. He may have always been a creep, but throughout his life he was capable mostly hiding it, at least in public. He had learned to be suave. It not unusual for developing dementia to be manifested in various forms of inhibition loss. We are seeing that in spades. In the case of Trump it's the bruised child ego that has always been there expressing its rages with all higher order supervision falling away.

That's a much more dangerous prognosis for the rest of us than the occasional neural time out we got from a McConnell or Biden. I'll take a mind which is intact but slowed down over one which may be quick but which is descending into unconstrained Id.

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[Tigerbomb13]

10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

And it's not only Trump exposing himself as a terrible person, it's the fact that it's demonstrating the loss of supervisory function in his psyche. He may have always been a creep, but throughout his life he was capable mostly hiding it, at least in public. He had learned to be suave. It not unusual for developing dementia to be manifested in various forms of inhibition loss. We are seeing that in spades. In the case of Trump it's the bruised child ego that has always been there expressing its rages with all higher order supervision falling away.

That's a much more dangerous prognosis for the rest of us than the occasional neural time out we got from a McConnell or Biden. I'll take a mind which is intact but slowed down over one which may be quick but which is descending into unconstrained Id.

I was just talking to a friend about this. He’s always been a horrible person, but dementia can one lose control of any filter like this. 

[romad1]

12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

And it's not only Trump exposing himself as a terrible person, it's the fact that it's demonstrating the loss of supervisory function in his psyche. He may have always been a creep, but throughout his life he was capable mostly hiding it, at least in public. He had learned to be suave. It not unusual for developing dementia to be manifested in various forms of inhibition loss. We are seeing that in spades. In the case of Trump it's the bruised child ego that has always been there expressing its rages with all higher order supervision falling away.

That's a much more dangerous prognosis for the rest of us than the occasional neural time out we got from a McConnell or Biden. I'll take a mind which is intact but slowed down over one which may be quick but which is descending into unconstrained Id.

Yeah, Nixon had checks on him at the end.   This is bad. 

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Finishing this post with "May Rob and Michele rot in pieces" instead would have been 😘👌.

[mtutiger]

3 hours ago, oblong said:

The most dangerous thing are the sanctimonious people who believe what they are doing is divinely inspired and holy.  Because of that they don’t have to defend anything themselves. They can just point to a book written by men over hundreds of years who argued over the meaning of engravings found rocks and scrolls and came up with something they called the Bible and even among themselves still can’t sort out which books belong or not and which text is literal or not. They just make it up as they go song to justify their hate of the era, whether it’s against minorities or women or gays or the Muslims or the Protestants (or Catholics depending on who is doing the talking) 

They point at the book, but if they bothered actually reading it or internalizing many of it's lessons, they wouldn't hold someone like this in such high esteem. Because again, with how he has lead his life and how he comports himself, there's no better avatar for spiritual death among public figures in this country IMO. 

And Christians wonder why so many Americans take a skeptical view of the Christian faith in this country... when all you do is talk, but then turn around and exalt someone who lives a life that goes against all of what your faith purportedly stands for and goes against all of the things that you judge everyone else for, why wouldn't you expect people to be cynical about it all?

It's honestly sad that in such a horrific act that took away someone who created art and added to the culture as Reiner did, we have no choice to address our narcissistic (and addled) President who will stop at nothing to insert himself into the story and make it all about his personal grievances. What a shame.

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

As this post aptly demonstrates, use by MAGA and the Red Hats of the phrase "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (or 'TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME", if you prefer) is itself a projection, since Trump's behavior routinely falls beyond any reasonable definition of what constitutes normal range.

[mtutiger]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

And it's not only Trump exposing himself as a terrible person, it's the fact that it's demonstrating the loss of supervisory function in his psyche. He may have always been a creep, but throughout his life he was capable mostly hiding it, at least in public. He had learned to be suave. It not unusual for developing dementia to be manifested in various forms of inhibition loss. We are seeing that in spades. In the case of Trump it's the bruised child ego that has always been there expressing its rages with all higher order supervision falling away.

This is 100% spot on. People are saying that he's always been this way, which isn't wrong.... but four years ago, something like this would have been worded more carefully, even coming from him. But he's getting sloppier in his old age, this *was* different even if the sentiment isn't hard to believe coming from him.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, oblong said:

And that’s why people who like him and support him are also horrible people. 

To like him when he was the charming You're Fired guy on TV was one thing. To continue to like him today, and support what he's doing? You put it as directly, succinctly, and honestly as possible.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, mtutiger said:

The ultimate takeaway from his words. He's a black hole who lacks any sort of humanity. Sure, same as it ever was, but he's becoming less subtle and more sloppy in his old age as well.

It's ironic that his strongest support continues to come from self-professed Christians, because I cannot think of a public figure who symbolizes spiritual death quite like he does.

This is a fine distinction to make as opposed to simply "Christians". To people who make as big show of professing their Christianity with their rhetoric  (as opposed to demonstrating their faith with their actions), the self-designation "Christians" has evolved to be no more than a political label that serves to highlight their bull**** toughness and selective lack of empathy and mercy—exactly the opposite of Jesus, and not for nothing.

[ewsieg]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

As this post aptly demonstrates, use by MAGA and the Red Hats of the phrase "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (or 'TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME", if you prefer) is itself a projection, since Trump's behavior routinely falls beyond any reasonable definition of what constitutes normal range.

Trust me, some of you folks on this board have TDS.  That said, you're right, there is projection with it too, which is needed by your brain when you're in a cult (MAGA) to be able to rationalize the behavior.

His statements on Reiner is not surprising.  Unpresidential, undignified, unbecoming, but certainly not surprising.  

 

 

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, oblong said:

The most dangerous thing are the sanctimonious people who believe what they are doing is divinely inspired and holy.  Because of that they don’t have to defend anything themselves. They can just point to a book written by men over hundreds of years who argued over the meaning of engravings found rocks and scrolls and came up with something they called the Bible and even among themselves still can’t sort out which books belong or not and which text is literal or not. They just make it up as they go song to justify their hate of the era, whether it’s against minorities or women or gays or the Muslims or the Protestants (or Catholics depending on who is doing the talking) 

Isn't that what this whole born-again nonsense is all about? The idea that all the good works of your entire life matters not a whit when it comes to your salvation, but you merely have only to say you "accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior" to earn eternal salvation? Doesn't this idea explicitly let them off the hook for being actual good people?

After all, under a regime like this, they don't have to do anything like helping people or other good works—in fact, as it relates to going to heaven, doing that would be a complete waste of time and energy. Instead, they have only to make a claim of being "saved", something which exists in only their minds and can't be checked or verified. Just tell other people they're saved, that's it, and everyone is supposed to believe them and regards them as holy. On its face, that seems like the absolute laziest way anyone has ever come up with sell the idea of earning one's way into heaven.

It seems to me that if someone like Satan were to ever design a false theology to lead an entire nation of people down the road to perdition, it would look exactly like that brand of Christianity.

[chasfh]

6 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

you folks

you don't say.

[Motown Bombers]

8 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Trust me, some of you folks on this board have TDS.  That said, you're right, there is projection with it too, which is needed by your brain when you're in a cult (MAGA) to be able to rationalize the behavior.

His statements on Reiner is not surprising.  Unpresidential, undignified, unbecoming, but certainly not surprising.  

 

 

Nobody on this forum has TDS.

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, LaceyLou said:

I wonder how many of these people watch A Christmas Carol every year then turn around and vote to take aid away from the people who need help most? And then say that they should die to reduce the surplus population?

I can't remember whether I have articulated this idea here yet, but I would bet money that reducing the surplus population to ease the demand on finite and dwindling resources is on the bingo cards of some of the people of the MAGA elite.

[chasfh]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Nobody on this forum has TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome" sounds like nothing more than a punchline with which to ... ahem ... trump someone in a debate. What does it even mean? Can anyone who actually believes this is a real thing explain in detail how it works and what makes it valid?

[Tigerbomb13]

12 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Trust me, some of you folks on this board have TDS. 

 

 

What are you talking about? He’s a **** stain on this country and should be treated so.