Screwball Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Venezuela is all about oil. Simple as that. That's been the plan since we needed oil. Also why the POS Marco Rubio was confirmed 99-0 as the person to make that happen. For every unit of growth, it takes a unit of energy. And now we have all these data centers!!! Git-r-done! No energy, no growth. Physics can be a bitch. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Right there... "Trump - to obtrude or deceive." Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 41 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: How about them apples? Just the facts, Ma'am. Quote
1984Echoes Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Trump's Pretzel Logic: Most of the oil companies that suffered (lost ALL of their investment and were kicked out of Venezuela) when Hugo Chavez nationalized their oil were American oil companies. Therefore... Maduro "stole" our oil (what we had/owned in Venezuela) and is justification for Trump's actions. Edited 4 hours ago by 1984Echoes Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) IIRC corectly, early on it was Exxon that was in the middle of the argument over embargoing Vz oil because they had spent big $$ to outfit at least one of their gulf coast refineries to run it (it's very heavy stock - fairly unique processing requirements) and were unhappy about the prospect of having an unusable multi-billion $ investment if the flow from VZ stopped. That was a number of years ago when Maduro was beginning to make himself an outcast, but that's the kind situation where money, corporate political pull and Secretaries of State that are ex Oil Co CEO's reduce the likely hood that the US is actually going to pursue productive foreign policies. Edited 4 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 59 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Trump's Pretzel Logic: Most of the oil companies that suffered (lost ALL of their investment and were kicked out of Venezuela) when Hugo Chavez nationalized their oil were American oil companies. Therefore... Maduro "stole" our oil (what we had/owned in Venezuela) and is justification for Trump's actions. So he started out using drugs as his excuse for murdering..drug smugglers? With no proof that they were smuggling drugs? It a boat that wouldn't even make it to the US? Just plain...murder. Donald Trump and others in his administration are criminals. They've committed war crimes. Quote
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