Trumps Presidency 2025

[Sports_Freak]

An example of Trump's projection;

He falsely claims protesters are being paid by democrats. In the meantime, he's paying untrained racists, insurrectionists, proud boys and violent felons he pardoned $50,000 to join ICE. His budget for this group of violent agents is greater than many countries entire armed forces. Our tax dollars are being used to destroy democracy. SMH

[gehringer_2]

45 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I mean, you take control by flipping Trump +17 districts like this one which was literally in Texas. This is the left. Always find a way to dismiss Democrats success and wonder why approval for Dems is so low. 

The Dems over performed in a lot of specials before 2024 as well, what did it get them?. In the US it is all about turnout, so when turnout is low you know nothing - that's not the same as being hopeless, it's just being realistic. Look at the NYC mayoral elections. Coumo got more than enough votes to win that race in something like 10 of the last 11 elections, but Mamdani generated enough enthusiasm to swamp Coumo's total anyway. But that means he's on a fragile mandate because if that enthusiasm flags, and his voters lose motivation, there is still a huge mass of people that were willing to vote against him. It's very unlikely the next NYC mayor's race will have another record turnout. So what do we really know?

Trump voters may have largely gone silent in a lot of places because they know they can't defend what he is doing, but that doesn't mean they don't still *like* what he is doing - so best not to underestimate them at any turn.

Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

The Dems over performed in a lot of specials before 2024 as well, what did it get them?. In the US it is all about turnout, so when turnout is low you know nothing - that's not the same as being hopeless, it's just being realistic. Look at the NYC mayoral elections. Coumo got more than enough votes to win that race in something like 10 of the last 11 elections, but Mamdani generated enough enthusiasm to swamp Coumo's total anyway. But that means he's on a fragile mandate because if that enthusiasm flags, and his voters lose motivation, there is still a huge mass of people that were willing to vote against him. 

Trump voters may have largely gone silent in a lot of places because they know they can't defend what he is doing, but that doesn't mean they don't still *like* what he is doing - so best not to underestimate them at any turn.

Not sure what New York city's election has to do with it. This was the first time it was a three way race with two Dem candidates so of course the turnout was going to be higher. If you want to use the New York election, the Republican in the election Sliwa, got half the number of votes he got in the previous election despite the much higher turnout. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[gehringer_2]

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Not sure what New York city's election has to do with it. 

it's a demonstration that turnout is more important than any other factor. Americans are not reliable voters, so any kind of extrapolation of voting results suffers from the same reliability issues. You may know what the people that showed up for election A think, but that doesn't get you diddly when a different cross section of voters shows up in election B. As long as turn out in US elections tends to be only 1/2 of the electorate you can't take too much from results when less than half of that half shows up.

It's great, but it's delusional to think it means anything bankable.

Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

it's a demonstration that turnout is more important than any other factor. Americans are not reliable voters, so any kind of extrapolation of voting results suffers from the same reliability issues. You may know what the people that showed up for election A think, but that doesn't get you diddly when a different cross section of voters shows up in election B. As long as turn out in US elections tends to be only 1/2 of the electorate you can't take too much from results when less than half of that half shows up. 

And republicans aren't turning out. The New York election was the first one in a long time that was actually competitive so that is why there was a higher turnout. 

[gehringer_2]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

And republicans aren't turning out.

That is what we are hoping for!

[romad1]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[gehringer_2]

18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

it's *always* projection with these guys - ALWAYS.