2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread

[Shinzaki]

RIP Chet Lemon...

[Graterol]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

This should give us a sense of where they Tigers are weak and need help and oh my

This is great. Biggest holes are Jobe (Cobb coming back), CF (Vierling and/or Meadows) and SS (Sweeney playing much better of late). Keith also warming up which should help 1B/DH.
 

Wonder what happens to Brebbia? Underlying metrics weren’t great, is he an upgrade on Brieske?

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, oblong said:

I can't put my finger on why but I like Trey Sweeney.  I think he's going to have a fine career and deliver a key hit in the playoffs one day.

He was a first round pick, which should mean he had the goods coming in and basically needs the right environment to bring it all out.

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, Graterol said:

This is great. Biggest holes are Jobe (Cobb coming back), CF (Vierling and/or Meadows) and SS (Sweeney playing much better of late). Keith also warming up which should help 1B/DH.
 

Wonder what happens to Brebbia? Underlying metrics weren’t great, is he an upgrade on Brieske?

Jobe isn't going down unless he really tanks (he gets a coors pass from me, especially with his high spin arsenal). Forfieting the chance of a draft pick would take him really reeling in the Bigs.

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Jobe isn't going down unless he really tanks (he gets a coors pass from me, especially with his high spin arsenal). Forfieting the chance of a draft pick would take him really reeling in the Bigs.

Terreible HP ump didn't help - looked like Jobe let it get under his skin a couple of times - another thing he has to learn to get over.

[Edman85]

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Terreible HP ump didn't help - looked like Jobe let it get under his skin a couple of times - another thing he has to learn to get over.

And if that is something he needs help with, it ain't gonna happen in AAA where you have the challenge system in place.

[gehringer_2]

11 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

And if that is something he needs help with, it ain't gonna happen in AAA where you have the challenge system in place.

true that

[Sports_Freak]

You know baseball is back on people's minds when they talk about the weather for upcoming Tiger games;

 

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Jobe isn't going down unless he really tanks (he gets a coors pass from me, especially with his high spin arsenal). Forfieting the chance of a draft pick would take him really reeling in the Bigs.

OTOH, though, if he doesn't start pitching with a little more consistency, the odds of him netting that draft pick will atart falling.

[RandyMarsh]

I give Jobe a pass not only for Coors but just how sparingly he has been used, pitchers are creatures of habits when you're only pitching once every 7 days or 10 days and not having a set schedule it has to throw you off a bit. 

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

OTOH, though, if he doesn't start pitching with a little more consistency, the odds of him netting that draft pick will atart falling.

True, in terms of 2025 ROY, but a pre-arb Cy isn't out of the question, even if he falters a bit in the bigs.

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

True, in terms of 2025 ROY, but a pre-arb Cy isn't out of the question, even if he falters a bit in the bigs.

JHM had a good day today. I thought he had slumped his way into a ticket back to Toledo before today's DH. Jace may be playing batter 3b than Vierling can, but he's still not hitting.

[gehringer_2]

The boys in the booth with this tidbit today: 38 games into the season, a Tiger starting pitcher has failed to go 4 innings exactly once - Jobe yesterday.

[lordstanley]

The 2025 Tigers and 2006 Tigers were both 25-13 after 38 games. The 1968 Tigers were 24-14. The 1984 Tigers were 33-5. The 2003 Tigers were 9-29. 

[IdahoBert]

43 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

The boys in the booth with this tidbit today: 38 games into the season, a Tiger starting pitcher has failed to go 4 innings exactly once - Jobe yesterday.

That is pretty incredible. 

[Arlington]

52 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

That is pretty incredible. 

Wonder if Hinch will use openers on occasion again.  Evan an accomplished starter could benefit from going through the top of the order one less time.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, lordstanley said:

The 2025 Tigers and 2006 Tigers were both 25-13 after 38 games. The 1968 Tigers were 24-14. The 1984 Tigers were 33-5. The 2003 Tigers were 9-29. 

The difference between 2006 and 2025 is that in 2006 it always felt like they were lucky and would start to fade.  This team feels like a really good team that came together faster than expected.  

[Motor City Sonics]

 

[Graterol]

11 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

I give Jobe a pass not only for Coors but just how sparingly he has been used, pitchers are creatures of habits when you're only pitching once every 7 days or 10 days and not having a set schedule it has to throw you off a bit. 

My concern with Jobe isn’t so much the last outing, but more the fact his K rates (in minors, in MLB) have never matched his stuff. I worry he will be more average than elite. Hope I’m wrong.

[gehringer_2]

30 minutes ago, Graterol said:

My concern with Jobe isn’t so much the last outing, but more the fact his K rates (in minors, in MLB) have never matched his stuff. I worry he will be more average than elite. Hope I’m wrong.

he's reminds me a little of where Mize was in when he started out. He gets ahead of hitters but the hitters know he going to throw out of the zone when he's ahead so they spit on his breaking ball - in Mizes case it was the split. Then he gets frustrated and throws a mistake. Guys with great breaking balls or splitters have to prove they can get guys out in the zone when they get to the majors. Jobe has to throw more strikes ahead in the count.

Edited yesterday at 12:31 PM by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

16 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Terreible HP ump didn't help - looked like Jobe let it get under his skin a couple of times - another thing he has to learn to get over.

Jobe seems to have a touch of loose cannon syndrome. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but at times that kind of thing can reflect poorly on people who have it.

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, lordstanley said:

The 2025 Tigers and 2006 Tigers were both 25-13 after 38 games. The 1968 Tigers were 24-14. The 1984 Tigers were 33-5. The 2003 Tigers were 9-29. 

The 2014 Tigers were 26-12! In fact they started 27-12.

And then, in a harbinger of the nearly decade to come, they went 9-20 in their next 29.

So, in a way, May 19, 2014 was the day the music started dying.

[Tiger337]

Every hitter on the Tigers active roster has a wRC+ of more than 100 except Jace Jung.

[RandyMarsh]

2 hours ago, Graterol said:

My concern with Jobe isn’t so much the last outing, but more the fact his K rates (in minors, in MLB) have never matched his stuff. I worry he will be more average than elite. Hope I’m wrong.

Yeah that does concern me a bit but I tell myself to just trust his stuff and the scouting reports. 

Granted he did get alot in his limited minor league career but it took Verlander a few years at the pro level before he consistently got Ks ands whiffs despite the plus plus stuff. 

[IdahoBert]

Tomorrow’s the 40th game and I am here to say “so what!“ As Gypsy Rose Lee once noted, “It’s not how you start but how you finish that matters.” The Tigers finished strong last year and have started strong this year and that’s why we’re justified in our optimism, and it has nothing to do with any arbitrary number of games. End of rant.