2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread

[gehringer_2]

Winning streak by the top 4 CenDiv teams now at 21. Even if you assume all 4 are 60% winning clubs, the binomial eqn gives the odds of the current combined streak as 1 in 45,000

[papalawrence]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Winning streak by the top 4 CenDiv teams now at 21. Even if you assume all 4 are 60% winning clubs, the binomial eqn gives the odds of the current combined streak as 1 in 45,000

That's crazy. I watched the final few innings of KC vs Boston this eve. KC has a quality team. They aren't going away

[papalawrence]

Colt Keith's average is up to .229 and his ops .732. He may be entering a torrid streak like he had last May and June

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Winning streak by the top 4 CenDiv teams now at 21. Even if you assume all 4 are 60% winning clubs, the binomial eqn gives the odds of the current combined streak as 1 in 45,000

This is not unlike the way the ‘84 Tigers kept winning and winning, and still could not completely bury the Blue Jays early. Those guys were playing almost .700 ball by early June and were less than a week’s worth of games behind us.

[TigerNation]

Looking at some statcast data the Tigers have a team wOBA of .333 with an xwOBA of .340. Those rank 7th and 8th in MLB respectively.

The next closest team in the Central in wOBA is Cleveland at .312 and in xwOBA is the Twins at .319.

The Tigers are 5th in first swing% but 15th in swing%.

The pitching has wOBA of .283 and an xwOBA of .301 which rank 2nd and 1st in MLB.

The Royals are close behind ranking 3rd in both wOBA and xwOBA with .285 and .305.

Tigers staff is second in baseball with a whiff rate of 27.8%.

Overall, the statcast data is very good and reinforces that this isn't some flukey run. This team is legit. And we still haven't added back Vierling/Meadows.

[IdahoBert]

Wow, the Dodgers pitching really sucks compared to ours:

[monkeytargets39]

Mize to the DL with a hamstring strain.  Lee called back up.

 

Doesnt sound like he’ll be gone long

Edited Saturday at 07:54 PM by monkeytargets39

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

Mize to the DL with a hamstring strain.  Lee called back up.

are you kidding me? Stepping off the mound again?

[monkeytargets39]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

are you kidding me? Stepping off the mound again?

Not sure.  I wasn’t able to watch game one of the double header.  

[RandyMarsh]

16 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Winning streak by the top 4 CenDiv teams now at 21. Even if you assume all 4 are 60% winning clubs, the binomial eqn gives the odds of the current combined streak as 1 in 45,000

I'm getting deja vu to the NFC North standings this past year in football. Felt like despite the Lions playing so well that they should be running away with things the Vikings and Packers kept winning as well making it come down to the end for the division. It's early but as of now it appears the Central may be the same way this year. 

[RandyMarsh]

Since bottoming out on August 30th of 2023 the Tigers have now gone 131-99 in their past 230 games which works out to a 93 win pace. Yeah it's an arbitrary cutoff but there is some tangible differences to the team around that starting point. Skubal came back from his injury a month earlier and was really starting to get into his dominant form.

The younger guys who played a role on last years team and/or this start like Carpenter, Vierling and Meadows were starting to play more regularly and perform along with Tork finishing that 2023 strong. 

Basically the youth movement was starting to take shape in the back half of that summer and since then the Tigers have played at an elite level for nearly a season and a half. 

All of this is to say that it is kinda frustrating when I see things from local and national outlets questioning if this team is "real", like these 39 games are the only sample of them playing winning baseball of late when that simply hasn't been the case.  

[papalawrence]

1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Mize to the DL with a hamstring strain.  Lee called back up.

 

Doesnt sound like he’ll be gone long

Link

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/05/tigers-place-casey-mize-on-15-day-injured-list.html

[1984Echoes]

On 5/8/2025 at 8:56 AM, monkeytargets39 said:

... Maybe someone like Kenley Jansen (assuming we didn’t end his career the other night) or Pete Fairbanks.

Can always use extra pitching down the stretch, especially another arm for the playoffs.

Reliever's I am looking at (on teams doing poorly... and the A's...): Jeff Hoffman with the Blue Jays and Mason Miller with the A's are on the top of my list. If the Guardians run out of gas... maybe Hunter Gaddis?

[1984Echoes]

Also...

Heard a suggestion of a rehabilitation target for Fetters to work on:

Sandy Alcantara from the Marlins. He only costs $11M/year this & next plus a club option in 2027.

It'd take a couple of mid-level prospects (just a guess), not much, I would think.

I'd love to see what Fetters could do with him.

[chasfh]

17 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Also...

Heard a suggestion of a rehabilitation target for Fetters to work on:

Sandy Alcantara from the Marlins. He only costs $11M/year this & next plus a club option in 2027.

It'd take a couple of mid-level prospects (just a guess), not much, I would think.

I'd love to see what Fetters could do with him.

Alcantara is going to be the hottest trade target of the deadline and it would take probably more than one Pipeline numbered prospect to win him, over other suitors. The Cubs in particular are down three starters now in their 2025-or-bust win-now season, and have a ****ton of numbered guys they can offer up in trade. Would you be willing to give them two or more of ours?

[SeattleMike]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Alcantara is going to be the hottest trade target of the deadline and it would take probably more than one Pipeline numbered prospect to win him, over other suitors. The Cubs in particular are down three starters now in their 2025-or-bust win-now season, and have a ****ton of numbered guys they can offer up in trade. Would you be willing to give them two or more of ours?

When is the last time 2 100 prospects got moved at the deadline for anything less than a Juan Soto type? 

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, SeattleMike said:

When is the last time 2 100 prospects got moved at the deadline for anything less than a Juan Soto type? 

Don't know but desperate teams in active markets can do crazy things. Cubs pushed all the chips into the middle of the table for this season so they can't afford to just let it slip away without a fight.

[Sports_Freak]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Alcantara is going to be the hottest trade target of the deadline and it would take probably more than one Pipeline numbered prospect to win him, over other suitors. The Cubs in particular are down three starters now in their 2025-or-bust win-now season, and have a ****ton of numbered guys they can offer up in trade. Would you be willing to give them two or more of ours?

The Cubs are that stupid? Even with 2 quality starting pitchers, they can't compete with the Dodgers, Padres or Mets. If just winning their division is the goal, go for it. Go ahead and trade away the future. 

[chasfh]

6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Cubs are that stupid? Even with 2 quality starting pitchers, they can't compete with the Dodgers, Padres or Mets. If just winning their division is the goal, go for it. Go ahead and trade away the future. 

That's what they're doing. Besides, they'll match up pretty well against those other three teams specially when they get Imanaga and Assad back, and should they get Alcantara, although really, they'd be better off pursuing back end bullpen help.

[IdahoBert]

25 of our remaining games are against the White Sox, the Orioles, the Angels, the Marlins, and the Pirates. Collectively, 72–129. Whoa!

[Tigermojo]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-new-look-javier-baez-is-fun-again/

Javy changed his stance, moved closer to the pitcher, lowered his hands and reduced his swing length. There are signs of regression but those signs have lessened since he started playing center. His defense has been good and even if his hitting is not quite at the current level, he'll still be valuable.

[papalawrence]

Gleyber is hitting .304 with .857 ops and 145 ops+. His D has been acceptable imho. Great pick up by Harris so far

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, papalawrence said:

Gleyber is hitting .304 with .857 ops and 145 ops+. His D has been acceptable imho. Great pick up by Harris so far

Just as every analyst said all winter, but he has been even better than we hoped. 

[Tiger337]

Torres was a steal.

[Edman85]

He will be the gift that keeps on giving if he keeps this up: worst case he bolts and is more than worthy of a QO and a comp pick.