Edman85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Be careful following Doyle. Plagiarist shiester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 No comment until there's a signature on the dotted line... Only then, at that point, will I crow if he's still in that top10-top5 range... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 What does "favorite" mean in that arena ? Are we talking Gentleman's understanding among clubs or does his parents live at Scott Harris' house ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said: What does "favorite" mean in that arena ? Are we talking Gentleman's understanding among clubs or does his parents live at Scott Harris' house ? Means they have agreed to a deal but can't be signed until next Jan 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: No comment until there's a signature on the dotted line... Only then, at that point, will I crow if he's still in that top10-top5 range... Yes, He deserves no credit for something that might happen a year from now. He's a smart guy and I think he will be a good GM/president/director/whatever, but right now he gets an incomplete grade and there are still a lot of Avila acquisitions making good strides lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Yes, He deserves no credit for something that might happen... I am less concerned about credit and more about jinxing or something else going wrong... When we get the signature... a sigh of relief that it got done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 25 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Means they have agreed to a deal but can't be signed until next Jan 15. Is this something you know to be true? Or are you just translating what Doyle is reporting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: Means they have agreed to a deal but can't be signed until next Jan 15. Sounds good. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: Yes, He deserves no credit for something that might happen a year from now. He's a smart guy and I think he will be a good GM/president/director/whatever, but right now he gets an incomplete grade and there are still a lot of Avila acquisitions making good strides lately. Good point but the question remains how much if any credit the new team deserves for developing the players Al drafted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Good point but the question remains how much if any credit the new team deserves for developing the players Al drafted ? We say this like Al was in the room beyond the first pick. I will say this for Al, even if his hand was forced, the player development shift did start under his watch. Now, whether there was some lip service and if it was a half measure is a legitimate question. Player development has been a definite emphasis for Harris and company to the point where they deserve a lion's share of the credit, imo. They've gone all in, whereas Avila dipped his toe in the water enough to give the veil of an upgrade, but still made sure to tip his hat to the old school folks. There are plenty of quotes to that nature. I suspect this was a big reason for the disjointed 2022. Besides, a strong player development reputation does help in the draft. Say you get to the third day and you have a sleeper you like you want to take in the 13th round. Your area guy calls to make sure he will sign for $150K, but he says no. The Dodgers, with a strong player dev reputation, take him and sign him for $150K instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 *Rant* We need a freaking shortstop!!!!!!!!!! */End of Rant* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Some teams have so many (Orioles) shortstops in their systems, that they have to move them to 3b and 2b, and suffer with great defense and offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 11 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Is this something you know to be true? Or are you just translating what Doyle is reporting? It's common down there. "Favorite to sign" is a common euphemism for agreed to a contract before eligible. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RatkoVarda Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/detroit-tigers-top-31-prospects-2024/ Bigbie does not make top 31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/detroit-tigers-top-31-prospects-2024/ Bigbie does not make top 31. "Bigbie had a huge season and his underlying batted ball data is ridiculous. He is deceptively strong and had a hard-hit rate over 50% despite his skinny build. Bigbie looks beatable inside, around his hands; he sprays a ton of doubles-worthy contact just inside the opposite field foul pole. I came away from his Fall League look skeptical that he’ll continue to hit this well, and am pretty resolved that he can’t play center field. This is me leaning heavily on my eyeball look; Bigbie’s underlying Statcast-style data is so strong that I’m sure some teams value him as a prospect solely for that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I know pipeline isn't everybody's cup of tea but they just put out their top 10 2b prospects and Jung is number 2. Also has the best power tool among 2b prospects according to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: "Bigbie had a huge season and his underlying batted ball data is ridiculous. He is deceptively strong and had a hard-hit rate over 50% despite his skinny build. Bigbie looks beatable inside, around his hands; he sprays a ton of doubles-worthy contact just inside the opposite field foul pole. I came away from his Fall League look skeptical that he’ll continue to hit this well, and am pretty resolved that he can’t play center field. This is me leaning heavily on my eyeball look; Bigbie’s underlying Statcast-style data is so strong that I’m sure some teams value him as a prospect solely for that." C "Can't play center field" what the hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Longgone said: C "Can't play center field" what the hell? Is that their way of saying not enough power to play in a corner? I don’t know what Bigbie will become, but feel pretty good if we have 31 prospects who are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 36 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Is that their way of saying not enough power to play in a corner? I don’t know what Bigbie will become, but feel pretty good if we have 31 prospects who are better. NO ONE ever thought he could play center field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 ESPN with an interesting list for their top 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 (edited) On 1/22/2024 at 3:09 PM, Longgone said: NO ONE ever thought he could play center field. Yeah - his logs don't show any career games anywhere other than 1B, RF, LF. Was also curious why he would project Meadows as a platoon OF when so far he is showing no platoon split against LHP over the last year at all. Not a huge sample yet but enough that one would maybe wait and see instead of just assuming conventional wisdom that lefties can't hit lefties. He might not hit enough period, but L/R isn't an apparent issue. Edited February 1 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: ESPN with an interesting list for their top 100 Jobe at 10, Marcelo Mayer at 28. Somewhere, Al Avila is laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 That cutter with the 3000+ spin rate Jobe added last year seems to have really boosted him in the rankings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Shinzaki said: That cutter with the 3000+ spin rate Jobe added last year seems to have really boosted him in the rankings And the sound back has boosted the FB. Every breaking ball improves with the fastball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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