Will Tigers Pony up for Skubal

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, papalawrence said:

Someone from the Yankees front office said they inquired and Harris asked for "half of the team" in return. He's pitching in Detroit, at least through the trade deadline

And he should ask for half of someone else’s team. It shouldn’t be us desperately trying to unload Skubal for anything we can get because we’re mad at Scott Boras.

[tiger2022]

Keep him and try to win this season.  I am interested in Detroit winning a World Series this season, not being proclaimed as the best minor league system.

[Sports_Freak]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Plus it would have to be a ridiculous offer that makes us better this year, or at least the same as before. Even Sports Freak would call Scott Harris a genius if he could pull that off! 🤣

Not taking the bait.

But who thinks Skubal's price went up with Tucker getting $60m per? Tarik now looking for $500m over 10 years? His price will only go up, if he has another Cy Young type season. Can you imagine his price if he wins the Cy Young Award for a 3rd straight year? That possibility has my head spinning.

[4hzglory]

8 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Not taking the bait.

But who thinks Skubal's price went up with Tucker getting $60m per? Tarik now looking for $500m over 10 years? His price will only go up, if he has another Cy Young type season. Can you imagine his price if he wins the Cy Young Award for a 3rd straight year? That possibility has my head spinning.

I don't see how Tucker having to sign a shorter deal makes it more likely Skubal gets 10.  He may be more likely to get 5 years $300 than previously thought (still think that is unlikely) but I think this offseason (Tucker & Bichette) has shown it's less likely he gets 10 years.  

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, 4hzglory said:

I don't see how Tucker having to sign a shorter deal makes it more likely Skubal gets 10.  He may be more likely to get 5 years $300 than previously thought (still think that is unlikely) but I think this offseason (Tucker & Bichette) has shown it's less likely he gets 10 years.  

I'm not sure he would want 5/300 if he wants to re-enter the market, since he would be age 35 doing so. I'd think he'd prefer something like 8/400.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Not taking the bait.

But who thinks Skubal's price went up with Tucker getting $60m per? Tarik now looking for $500m over 10 years? His price will only go up, if he has another Cy Young type season. Can you imagine his price if he wins the Cy Young Award for a 3rd straight year? That possibility has my head spinning.

It wasn't bait, honest. More of a hit and run joke. I honestly fretted that you might misunderstand and up the ante somehow, because I didn't want to have to deal with it. Appreciate that you didn't.

[4hzglory]

48 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I'm not sure he would want 5/300 if he wants to re-enter the market, since he would be age 35 doing so. I'd think he'd prefer something like 8/400.

I agree he'd probably prefer that, but if Tucker and Bichette couldn't get long term deals they wanted (Tucker was supposedly offered 10/$350), then who is to say the teams that would spend $50/yr would be willing to go 8 years on Skubal for the very reason you said (Age).

[buddha]

if some team wants to give a 30 year old pitcher a ten year contract, let em do it.  i hope its not detroit.

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, 4hzglory said:

I don't see how Tucker having to sign a shorter deal makes it more likely Skubal gets 10.  He may be more likely to get 5 years $300 than previously thought (still think that is unlikely) but I think this offseason (Tucker & Bichette) has shown it's less likely he gets 10 years.  

Skubal wanted $400m/10 years before Tucker signed for $60m per year. I really think Skubal is looking for one contract to finish out his career. 8 to 10 years...at $50m per year? I'm pretty sure he'll get that if he has close to the same year as he's had the last 2 years. Especially if he leads the Tigers to a championship. Dodgers, Mets or Yankees. With Boston or Toronto a possibility 

[4hzglory]

5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Skubal wanted $400m/10 years before Tucker signed for $60m per year. I really think Skubal is looking for one contract to finish out his career. 8 to 10 years...at $50m per year? I'm pretty sure he'll get that if he has close to the same year as he's had the last 2 years. Especially if he leads the Tigers to a championship. Dodgers, Mets or Yankees. With Boston or Toronto a possibility 

He can look for all he wants.  If teams aren't willing to go 10 years at $40-50/yr (which they weren't for Tucker), then he may have to decide if he wants a shorter term $50-60/yr deal or a 10 year $30-35/yr deal

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, 4hzglory said:

He can look for all he wants.  If teams aren't willing to go 10 years at $40-50/yr (which they weren't for Tucker), then he may have to decide if he wants a shorter term $50-60/yr deal or a 10 year $30-35/yr deal

Depending how the CBA turns out, Boras will hold out all winter, until early spring, looking to cash in. Tucker signed pretty early, considering. At $60m per year, 4 years is perfect for him. He can sign another 4 to 6 year contract afterwards. He just turned 29 years old.

[CaliforniaDreaming]

I think he gets a 6 year contract with an opt out after 2. If he continues winning awards, he could go back on the market after 2. If he doesn't, the team isn't on the hook for 10 years.

[papalawrence]

28 minutes ago, CaliforniaDreaming said:

I think he gets a 6 year contract with an opt out after 2. If he continues winning awards, he could go back on the market after 2. If he doesn't, the team isn't on the hook for 10 years.

Shorter contracts with higher aav seem to be the trend. I can see the Dodgers offering 5/300. Not much would surprise me anymore. 

[RatkoVarda]

looks super unlikely that the mets trade for Skubal

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/01/mets-trade-for-freddy-peralta.html

[Shelton]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

looks super unlikely that the mets trade for Skubal

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/01/mets-trade-for-freddy-peralta.html

This right here is the perfect illustration for why the tigers were never going to trade Skubal for the oft-mentioned “three top prospects” this offseason. 
 

Everyone that likes to dabble in speculation and hypothetical deals that the tigers could have made, have at it. You can safely say that the tigers could have traded Skubal for this return right here. If you want to replace Sproat with Tong and make it straight up for Skubal with no RP attachment, I’ll allow it (although that could still be pushing it). 
 

We now know what a win-now team like the Mets is willing to give up in return for one year of a Cy Young caliber SP and a decent RP (and 2027 comp pick).

 

I wonder how many folks would prefer the two prospects. The Brewers won 97 games last year and have World Series aspirations no different than the tigers, and they preferred the prospects.

There are two big differences that I see. First, the brewers were starting from a stronger position and could more afford to lose the Cy young caliber SP. Second, their cache of top prospects wasn’t as good as the tigers.

 

 

[AlaskanTigersFan]

4 hours ago, Shelton said:

This right here is the perfect illustration for why the tigers were never going to trade Skubal for the oft-mentioned “three top prospects” this offseason. 
 

Everyone that likes to dabble in speculation and hypothetical deals that the tigers could have made, have at it. You can safely say that the tigers could have traded Skubal for this return right here. If you want to replace Sproat with Tong and make it straight up for Skubal with no RP attachment, I’ll allow it (although that could still be pushing it). 
 

We now know what a win-now team like the Mets is willing to give up in return for one year of a Cy Young caliber SP and a decent RP (and 2027 comp pick).

 

I wonder how many folks would prefer the two prospects. The Brewers won 97 games last year and have World Series aspirations no different than the tigers, and they preferred the prospects.

There are two big differences that I see. First, the brewers were starting from a stronger position and could more afford to lose the Cy young caliber SP. Second, their cache of top prospects wasn’t as good as the tigers.

 

 

I'm confused. I really think the Tigers could get 3 top 100 prospects for Skubal...... I still stand behind Andrew Painter, Justin Crawford and Aiden Miller for Skubal being the comparable price I'd put on him...... ESPECIALLY after the Peralta trade. 

To put it in perspective. The Dodgers would give up something like Roki Sasaki, Dalton Rushing and Zyhir Hope....... 

I don't think price wise that is out of the realm.... Do I think it will happen? No I don't. I could see the Tigers waiting until the deadline, being out of it, and giving Skubal up for ONE of those. Hence why I think they should trade him NOW. But just my $0.02.

[Stormin]

Tenacious D stated that the Mets were the best potential trade partner for Skubal and I agree.  The Tigers may have been able to get 3 top 100 prospects, but I don't think the Tigers could get a top 20.

Personally,  if the Tigers do not get a top 20, 60 FV, All Star potential, prospect as a headliner in return - I would rather see Skubal pitch for the Tigers and see what the Tigers can obtain with the comp pick.  To be honest, I may prefer the Tigers keep Skubal in any case because Skubal is just fun to watch.

I don't see the Dodgers trading away their top prospects for one year of Skubal.  The Dodgers don't need Skubal to win this year.   The Dodger roster is aging.   The CBA may not allow the Dodgers to buy as many players in the future - the Dodgers will need their young prospects.  The CBA may allow the Dodgers to continue to buy players - the Dodgers can sign Skubal next year.

[4hzglory]

Just now, Stormin said:

 

I don't see the Dodgers trading away their top prospects for one year of Skubal.  The Dodgers don't need Skubal to win this year.   The Dodger roster is aging.   The CBA may not allow the Dodgers to buy as many players in the future - the Dodgers will need their young prospects.  The CBA may allow the Dodgers to continue to buy players - the Dodgers can sign Skubal next year.

Exactly.  It makes no sense for the Dodgers to give up Sasaki, Rushing, and Hope for a player they have proven they don't need to win and who they can just sign next year.