SoCalTiger Posted July 25 Posted July 25 We can fix our ball pen, but we can’t fix our offense via the trade deadline. So trade for swinging his arms and wait for the offense to recover. It’s a slump and a bad one, but it won’t last the rest of the year. We’re better than this And we will show it once we are. We will need some bullpen help. That’s all we can do no need to ruin the nice cachet of minor league players. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Just now, SoCalTiger said: We can fix our ball pen, but we can’t fix our offense via the trade deadline. So trade for swinging his arms and wait for the offense to recover. It’s a slump and a bad one, but it won’t last the rest of the year. We’re better than this And we will show it once we are. We will need some bullpen help. That’s all we can do no need to ruin the nice cachet of minor league players. I don’t think I’ll be using the microphone going forward just typing 2 Quote
kdog Posted July 25 Posted July 25 (edited) Yankees acquiring Ryan McMahon from the Rockies for two prospects....gave up fringe prospects. He is due $16 million in each of the next two seasons...salary dump. Edited July 25 by kdog Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted July 25 Posted July 25 39 minutes ago, kdog said: Yankees acquiring Ryan McMahon from the Rockies for two prospects....gave up fringe prospects. He is due $16 million in each of the next two seasons...salary dump. Herring isn't a fringe prospect. He is trending up pretty majorly, was just drafted last year. He has been lights out this year. That is a good get for McMahon. That tells me the asking price for Geno is huge. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 25 Posted July 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said: I don’t think I’ll be using the microphone going forward just typing Mine would be even worse. When I try to have my zoom lectures transcribed, it doesn't understand my Boston accent at all. Edited July 25 by Tiger337 1 1 Quote
casimir Posted Friday at 07:23 PM Posted Friday at 07:23 PM 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Detroit after the trade deadline gets 3B Hao Yu Lee and reliever Matt Manning. THE Matt Manning? Gonna politely decline, thank you. Quote
chasfh Posted Friday at 08:34 PM Posted Friday at 08:34 PM 2 hours ago, kdog said: Yankees acquiring Ryan McMahon from the Rockies for two prospects....gave up fringe prospects. He is due $16 million in each of the next two seasons...salary dump. Talk about steady performer, here is Ryan McMahon's OPS+ 2021 through this year: 98; 98; 94; 93; 92. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Friday at 08:39 PM Posted Friday at 08:39 PM 1 hour ago, casimir said: THE Matt Manning? Gonna politely decline, thank you. You will get THE Matt Manning and LIKE it!!! Quote
casimir Posted Saturday at 03:34 PM Posted Saturday at 03:34 PM 19 hours ago, chasfh said: Talk about steady performer, here is Ryan McMahon's OPS+ 2021 through this year: 98; 98; 94; 93; 92. He's an A student. Not bad at all. 1 Quote
casimir Posted Saturday at 03:36 PM Posted Saturday at 03:36 PM 18 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: You will get THE Matt Manning and LIKE it!!! Sure, but probably not as much as I'd like Alex "I have no idea where the ball is going to go" Lange being brought back. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted Saturday at 05:26 PM Author Posted Saturday at 05:26 PM ESPN 3. Detroit Tigers On the days Tarik Skubal pitches, the Tigers could be the best team in baseball; it's possible that in the postseason, he could be his generation's version of Orel Hershiser or Madison Bumgarner, propelling his team through round after round of playoffs to the World Series. But the Tigers might have Skubal for only the rest of this year and next season, before he, advised by his agent Scott Boras, heads into free agency and becomes maybe the first $400 million pitcher in history. Now is the time for Detroit to make a push for its first championship in more than four decades. And for Scott Harris, the team's president of baseball operations, that means adding a couple of high-impact relievers capable of generating a lot of swing-and-misses. Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM 5 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: ESPN 3. Detroit Tigers On the days Tarik Skubal pitches, the Tigers could be the best team in baseball; it's possible that in the postseason, he could be his generation's version of Orel Hershiser or Madison Bumgarner, propelling his team through round after round of playoffs to the World Series. But the Tigers might have Skubal for only the rest of this year and next season, before he, advised by his agent Scott Boras, heads into free agency and becomes maybe the first $400 million pitcher in history. Now is the time for Detroit to make a push for its first championship in more than four decades. And for Scott Harris, the team's president of baseball operations, that means adding a couple of high-impact relievers capable of generating a lot of swing-and-misses. Looks like everyone on the outside is reacting as though the last two weeks have been the Tigers’ true level as well. Quote
Tenacious D Posted Saturday at 05:59 PM Posted Saturday at 05:59 PM 22 minutes ago, chasfh said: Looks like everyone on the outside is reacting as though the last two weeks have been the Tigers’ true level as well. I don’t think it is, nor anyone else here likely. But their flaws are being exposed right now with no aspect of their game working. As inexplicable as last season’s finish/this year’s start was, so is the current tailspin. This is not an “all in” roster. Make moves that will help this season and beyond, trading from organizational depth—no rentals, unless the price tag is so low it’s hard to say no. 2 Quote
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 06:59 PM Posted Saturday at 06:59 PM 3 hours ago, casimir said: ...not as much as I'd like Alex "I have no idea where the ball is going to go" Lange being brought back. Even BETTER! Matt "I'm 27 and I STILL haven't found what I'm looking for" Manning. Alex "I have no idea where the ball is going" Lange. And Jason "Mmmm, good coffee!" Foley. As our late innings TRIFECTA!!! You know. Like Cerberus. A 3-headed monster... or dog... or... something. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: ... Make moves that will help this season and beyond, trading from organizational depth—no rentals, unless the price tag is so low it’s hard to say no. This. Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 08:20 PM Posted Saturday at 08:20 PM 2 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I don’t think it is, nor anyone else here likely. But their flaws are being exposed right now with no aspect of their game working. As inexplicable as last season’s finish/this year’s start was, so is the current tailspin. This is not an “all in” roster. Make moves that will help this season and beyond, trading from organizational depth—no rentals, unless the price tag is so low it’s hard to say no. Exactly. Trade for the future, not just for a band-aid. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 08:56 PM Posted Saturday at 08:56 PM All season long, I was hoping the Tigers would trade for some quality pitching. But with their recent offensive problems, back end pitchers really wouldn't help. We still need bullpen help but we need to find some consistent bats. Score more runs. The entire lineup is in a slump, just like most of the first 3/4 of 2024. Up until mid-August or so....people forget. Quote
Tenacious D Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Question—would acquiring Bednar, Keller and Suarez have prevent this current slide? We really haven’t blown any saves, so Bednar would have not impacted. Suarez is one bat in an entire lineup that isn’t hitting. His power would probably not be as strong in Comerica and his D is not great. Keller might have kept them competitive every 5th game. The reality is that this team has so many flaws that even adding three significant pieces would not be enough to turn things around. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 10:31 PM Posted Saturday at 10:31 PM Just for arguments' sake... Now change those names to: Jacob DeGrom (or Joe Ryan); Mason Miller, and Austin Riley. Quote
4hzglory Posted Saturday at 10:50 PM Posted Saturday at 10:50 PM 22 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: The reality is that this team has so many flaws that even adding three significant pieces would not be enough to turn things around. Current slump, yes. Previous 140 games, this team was so balanced they didn’t have a losing streak greater than 3 games and had the best record in baseball. When basically every hitter and pitcher is slumping at once, it will look bad. The rotation overall is solid. The hitters as a whole are solid. The base running has been exceptional (can’t tell in this slump as they aren’t on base) The bullpen has needed swing and miss all season (and last). 140 games says a lot more about who they are than the last 11. They need a breakout, to stop pressing, and get back to working counts on offense, and pitchers not letting innings blow up. They still need bullpen help (and yes, Bednar may have prevented Tommy K from being blown up immediately after it happened before. 1 1 Quote
Tenacious D Posted Saturday at 11:15 PM Posted Saturday at 11:15 PM Fair enough. One of us is going to be correct. And I genuinely hope it’s you. Quote
Tenacious D Posted Saturday at 11:20 PM Posted Saturday at 11:20 PM 49 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Just for arguments' sake... Now change those names to: Jacob DeGrom (or Joe Ryan); Mason Miller, and Austin Riley. Same answer. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted Sunday at 04:32 AM Posted Sunday at 04:32 AM The only impact of adding a big bat now might be psychological in that the hitters might feel a little less pressure..the cavalry has arrived so to speak bit we might achieve that with Carpenters return as well or maybe the next game when we get some big hits. Could be tomorrow so tune in and bring your positive karma. Let's manifest it !!! Quote
chasfh Posted Sunday at 12:47 PM Posted Sunday at 12:47 PM (edited) 14 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Just for arguments' sake... Now change those names to: Jacob DeGrom (or Joe Ryan); Mason Miller, and Austin Riley. Yes, three more All-Stars would definitely help. Of course, we already have six on the team, so … Edited Sunday at 12:47 PM by chasfh Quote
chasfh Posted Sunday at 12:58 PM Posted Sunday at 12:58 PM (edited) I find it interesting that the same team, among the youngest in the majors, that we thought a month ago had finally found their footing in the big leagues is now thought to be irredeemably terrible and beyond repair. It’s possible might actually be irredeemably terrible and beyond repair after all—and no doubt, a few of the guys are on this roster right now are—and who knows, maybe we will end up having to blow up the whole team and start over. But I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment and choose to believe that for a lot of these guys, the guys who can be saved, this is more like a step in the maturation process. They’re learning how to manage themselves through horrible slumps like this, and I think the best of them will be better for it. We might even be using this specific opportunity to determine who to weed out going forward into next year, and even into October. 🤞🏼 This is a really hard stretch to go through, and it’s definitely hard to watch, but I’m not throwing in the towel quite yet. Edited Sunday at 01:00 PM by chasfh Quote
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