Shelton Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM 16 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: Yeah, no thanks. This would be a massive overpay, not to mention it's been reported the Tigers have zero interest in Hayes. BA just said Rainer, if he didn't get hurt, had a realistic chance to be rated higher than Konnor Griffin who is their #1 ranked prospect currently - in other words he isn't getting moved to Pittsburgh unless Skenes is coming back: The Skinny: One of two high profile prep shortstops in the 2024 draft, Rainer hasn’t had the rise of Konnor Griffin in 2025, but if not for a season-ending shoulder injury he might have ranked even higher. Rainer is an advanced hitting shortstop with a plus power-hitting peak. Bednar is the only one of the bunch I'd really want and I think he's more likely to cost something like Jung and Anderson/Hamm than he is one of our top 6. They aren't also aren't trading Vierling. That blurb suggests that Rainer would be ranked higher than where Rainer is currently. Not that Rainer would be ranked higher than #1 Konnor Griffin. 2 Quote
RatkoVarda Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM 1 hour ago, romad1 said: So, is he a failure or did he just fail here? Harris failed with these 3: he signed Boyd, Maeda and Cobb for $50M and got nothing from them. Quote
romad1 Posted Tuesday at 06:45 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:45 PM Just now, RatkoVarda said: Harris failed with these 3: he signed Boyd, Maeda and Cobb for $50M and got nothing from them. Look at Boyd this year! Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted Tuesday at 06:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:47 PM 1 minute ago, RatkoVarda said: Harris failed with these 3: he signed Boyd, Maeda and Cobb for $50M and got nothing from them. Can you really fault him though? All three had proven track records. Cobb was signed to quite a rich contract. I think he was worth taking a risk on, but we knew he'd take some time. Hopefully he comes back for 1/2 of Aug and all of Sept/October. Even if they need to move him to the BP. Quote
KL2 Posted Tuesday at 07:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:00 PM 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Posted this in the throw around ideas thread. Looking more and more realistic each day. (Please note general consensus is no on our end because everyone loves Rainer). Tigers get: Mitch Keller K'Bryan Hayes David Bednar Thomas Harrington Pirates get: Rainer Lirizano Hamm Vierling (Not sure if we'd have to include Ty Madden to balance this out or not) Trades that complicated rarely happen at the deadline Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM 7 minutes ago, KL2 said: Trades that complicated rarely happen at the deadline https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/11292158/david-price-traded-detroit-tigers-deal-tampa-bay-rays https://www.mlb.com/news/best-trade-deadline-moves-this-century It is rare indeed. That deal seals up every hole we have though. (I don't think it'd happen but it would). Quote
Tenacious D Posted Tuesday at 07:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:25 PM 14 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/11292158/david-price-traded-detroit-tigers-deal-tampa-bay-rays https://www.mlb.com/news/best-trade-deadline-moves-this-century It is rare indeed. That deal seals up every hole we have though. (I don't think it'd happen but it would). That came down to the very last minute—they had to pull Austin out of CF in the middle of the inning to consummate in time. 1 Quote
oblong Posted Tuesday at 07:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:37 PM 10 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: That came down to the very last minute—they had to pull Austin out of CF in the middle of the inning to consummate in time. Was it due to time or just "he's not on our team anymore, get him out of there before he gets hurt or something and it voids"? I don't know, I was at Michigan Adventure at the time and trying to get updates on a dying cell phone while standing in line for a roller coaster. Quote
4hzglory Posted Tuesday at 07:48 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:48 PM 1 hour ago, Shelton said: That blurb suggests that Rainer would be ranked higher than where Rainer is currently. Not that Rainer would be ranked higher than #1 Konnor Griffin. I guess I took it different based on the comparison they did between the 2 when both were healthy earlier in the season, but I can see how it is likely the way you say. Quote
lordstanley Posted Tuesday at 07:57 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:57 PM 17 minutes ago, oblong said: Was it due to time or just "he's not on our team anymore, get him out of there before he gets hurt or something and it voids"? I don't know, I was at Michigan Adventure at the time and trying to get updates on a dying cell phone while standing in line for a roller coaster. I was at Comerica and saw Austin leave and then read the news via Twitter. But since my daughter wanted to ride the merry go round we left our seats to go there so a bunch of dads in line with their kids heard the news first from me. As for Suarez: Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM Please, please, please, baseball Gods, I hate Chris Sale. Don't make him a Tiger, please don't make him a Tiger. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted Tuesday at 08:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:00 PM 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Look at Boyd this year! Just wait'll Maeda next year. Quote
KL2 Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/11292158/david-price-traded-detroit-tigers-deal-tampa-bay-rays https://www.mlb.com/news/best-trade-deadline-moves-this-century It is rare indeed. That deal seals up every hole we have though. (I don't think it'd happen but it would). Yes rare, meaning in frequent, not never, which is why I said rare. But outside of that can you remember any 4 for 6 deadline swaps involving multiple big leaguers? Would you remember price if we weren’t involved? almost all deadline deals are 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 swaps where a major leaguer goes for prospects Quote
Toddwert Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM 39 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Please, please, please, baseball Gods, I hate Chris Sale. Don't make him a Tiger, please don't make him a Tiger. hes on IL so he cant get traded Quote
alex Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM (edited) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/orioles-trade-seranthony-dominguez-blue-jays.html Jays get RP. This is mostly what goes on. You should/do not have to trade a top 100 prospect for a decent RP. Heck, this prospect might rank in top 15 on Detroit's list - yet, maybe Baltimore rates him a bit higher from their end. Edited Tuesday at 08:59 PM by alex Quote
4hzglory Posted Tuesday at 09:04 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:04 PM 4 minutes ago, alex said: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/orioles-trade-seranthony-dominguez-blue-jays.html Jays get RP. This is mostly what goes on. You should/do not have to trade a top 100 prospect for a decent RP. Heck, this prospect might rank in top 15 on Detroit's list - yet, maybe Baltimore rates him a bit higher from their end. Yep, only way a top 100 goes is for multiple years of control of a dominant closer - IE Duran. I don't include Bednar because as recent as 2025 he was sent to the minors (and was awful in 2024). Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM Again, I'll be shocked if Suarez gets moved for a non top 50 prospect. He'll at least get a top 100. Quote
Hongbit Posted Tuesday at 10:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:34 PM 29 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Again, I'll be shocked if Suarez gets moved for a non top 50 prospect. He'll at least get a top 100. Possibly but he’s a 34 year old rental. I can see them taking a group of prospects all from outside the top 100 Quote
Longgone Posted Tuesday at 11:10 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:10 PM 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Again, I'll be shocked if Suarez gets moved for a non top 50 prospect. He'll at least get a top 100. I think you are overrating him. He offers power and little else, and I’m not sure how that will play in Comerica. He’s an aging, strikeout prone, maddeningly inconsistent rental. 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted Tuesday at 11:13 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:13 PM 1 minute ago, Longgone said: I think you are overrating him. He offers power and little else, and I’m not sure how that will play in Comerica. He’s an aging, strikeout prone, maddeningly inconsistent rental. Agree. Harris' job is to figure out who will be good in the second half. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted yesterday at 12:20 AM Posted yesterday at 12:20 AM 6 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Posted this in the throw around ideas thread. Looking more and more realistic each day. (Please note general consensus is no on our end because everyone loves Rainer). Tigers get: Mitch Keller K'Bryan Hayes David Bednar Thomas Harrington Pirates get: Rainer Lirizano Hamm Vierling (Not sure if we'd have to include Ty Madden to balance this out or not) No Quote
SoCalTiger Posted yesterday at 12:22 AM Posted yesterday at 12:22 AM 6 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I’d move Briceno, Hamm and Jung for Bednar and Keller. Hard pass on Hayes. Also no. Sub Anderson for Briceno 2 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted yesterday at 02:48 AM Posted yesterday at 02:48 AM 3 hours ago, Longgone said: I think you are overrating him. He offers power and little else, and I’m not sure how that will play in Comerica. He’s an aging, strikeout prone, maddeningly inconsistent rental. I guess we'll find out in 48 hours. If he's traded, he's netting a top 100 prospect. Quote
Tigermojo Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Harris is only going to trade for guys with staches or beards. Quote
chasfh Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 20 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I’d move Briceno, Hamm and Jung for Bednar and Keller. Hard pass on Hayes. Pirates say no. Quote
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