NFL General Comments 2025 Season

[Jason_R]

Come on fellas, GB was the sixth-best defense in points allowed and the fifth-best defense in yards allowed last season. They got better. 

That said, last year they played Indy, Tennessee, Arizona, Jacksonville, SF, Miami, NO, and Chicago (2x). That’s nine games against teams with losing records. Their schedule doesn’t look so easy this season. If Jordan Love doesn’t get straightened out they could lose 8 or 9 games on this schedule. Even with upgrading their defense. 

[RedRamage]

There's no question this makes the Packers better and I don't like that. It's debatable how much better of course, and what the long term lack of first round picks in the next two years will do to their ability to maintain a great team. I definitely think this makes the Packers more dangerous, but I don't know if I think this makes them the favorite in the division.

[Shinzaki]

They lose  Clark and 2 number 1s. They gain one of the elite pass rushers.  Pass rush improves..run defense may take a hit.  Don't know what adding that contract will do team chemistry...the Pack strike me as being a bit volatile emotionally.

With the draft...when you're picking in the 20s...everybody above you gets a free pick, but your picking ahead of everyone after that.  Green Bay...barring any other trades..Will be picking after everyone above them has two picks

[Jimbo]

I think this trade is a big gamble.  If the Pack do not win the division and/or make it deep in the playoffs this year, it was a failure in my opinion.  Losing two years of first round picks and the salary they paid Parsons is going to hand cuff them for a while.  

I think Holmes thinks they can compete for a Super Bowl now and in the future.  When you start having to pay your current players and your cap number is high, you need draft picks to eventually replace players.  

[Jason_R]

A lot is riding on Jordan Love. I view him as a streaky QB, whose performance is consistent with an 18-15 record as a starter. But his QBR and passer rating show him in the top ten.

This doesn’t feel right to me, but makes sense when you see he is basically tied with Josh Allen for the lowest sack percentage in the NFL over the past two seasons. He’s taken 44 sacks in those two seasons, only 14 last year. Goff took 31 and 30 sacks. When Love took 30 sacks in 2023, GB’s offense ranked just outside of top ten. When he only took 14 sacks last season, they were 5th in yards and 8th in points. 

They do a good job of protecting him and preventing catastrophic plays. A better job than Detroit has done with Goff. Maybe Morton will focus on protecting Goff better. 

[slothfacekilla]

Last season Green Bay also had the third lowest percentage of passing plays at 49.31% so there were less opportunities for Love to take a sack.  It'll be interesting to see if they revert back to the previous two seasons' (53.9 and 58.3%) passing percentages. 

[Jason_R]

Good point. They played a lot of bad teams last year. Had the luxury of getting a lead and running the ball. Detroit was just under 50% rushing last year (534 rushes, 551 passes). I hope Morton dials up the smashmouth a bit more and puts less on Goff. 

[Jason_R]

Also, I just read Albert Breer's article about how the trade went down. He said two things that were telling.

One was that the Cowboys had gotten tired of seeing Parsons freelance in an attempt to make big plays. This seems to have played into Jerry Jones's comments about having had a hard time stopping the run. 

The other was that Kenny Clark played a big leadership role in the GB locker room. Clark has always been viewed as an "adult in the room." 

On paper the GB defense is better, but you never know what happens when you lose a leader on the field and off, and when you add someone who may see himself as more important than the team. GB has a lot of young players. Not sure Love is really a leader yet. It will be interesting to see how Parsons impacts the locker room.

[gehringer_2]

17 hours ago, Jason_R said:

Also, I just read Albert Breer's article about how the trade went down. He said two things that were telling.

One was that the Cowboys had gotten tired of seeing Parsons freelance in an attempt to make big plays. This seems to have played into Jerry Jones's comments about having had a hard time stopping the run. 

The other was that Kenny Clark played a big leadership role in the GB locker room. Clark has always been viewed as an "adult in the room." 

On paper the GB defense is better, but you never know what happens when you lose a leader on the field and off, and when you add someone who may see himself as more important than the team. GB has a lot of young players. Not sure Love is really a leader yet. It will be interesting to see how Parsons impacts the locker room.

This is sort of what make football interesting (to me). It's how many different levels of things all have to work. All sports are about talent, but football is highly dependent on team precision as well. You can waste the value of a lot of talent if guys don't stick to their assignments and/or those assignments are not well designed. OTOH, sometimes coaches need to bend the system they want to play to allow for a player with a unique skill set to give them the most value. And sometimes good players and good coaches just don't work together (e.g. Goff/McVay). All adds to keep things unpredictable.

[Jason_R]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/micah-parsons-reportedly-viewed-by-some-cowboys-teammates-as-egotistical-self-centered-before-packers-trade/

It will be interesting to see what happens if they get off to a slow start in GB. 

[gehringer_2]

NFL should be starting today.

[sagnam]

On 8/29/2025 at 5:44 PM, Jason_R said:

Also, I just read Albert Breer's article about how the trade went down. He said two things that were telling.

One was that the Cowboys had gotten tired of seeing Parsons freelance in an attempt to make big plays. This seems to have played into Jerry Jones's comments about having had a hard time stopping the run. 

The other was that Kenny Clark played a big leadership role in the GB locker room. Clark has always been viewed as an "adult in the room." 

On paper the GB defense is better, but you never know what happens when you lose a leader on the field and off, and when you add someone who may see himself as more important than the team. GB has a lot of young players. Not sure Love is really a leader yet. It will be interesting to see how Parsons impacts the locker room.

Not disagreeing with you about chemistry and leadership, it’s just that when I read that my mind immediately went to Jerry Jones spreading rumors to not lose too much of the fan base, he has to keep butts in seats until he can use those draft picks.

I guarantee he sees this as very own Hershel Walker moment. Jimmy Johnson takes too much credit in his mind for the original.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by sagnam

[Jason_R]

1 hour ago, sagnam said:

Not disagreeing with you about chemistry and leadership, it’s just that when I read that my mind immediately went to Jerry Jones spreading rumors to not lose too much of the fan base, he has to keep butts in seats until he can use those draft picks.

I guarantee he sees this as very own Hershel Walker moment. Jimmy Johnson takes too much credit in his mind for the original.

 

I don’t disagree that Jerry looked erratic in handling these negotiations, especially in not dealing with the agent. Also, there is a lot of wishful thinking here on my part. But it would not surprise me if Dallas ended up happier in the long run. And it would not surprise me to see controversy follow Parsons to GB. Some people just can’t avoid it. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Jason_R

[sagnam]

39 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

I don’t disagree that Jerry looked erratic in handling these negotiations, especially in not dealing with the agent. Also, there is a lot of wishful thinking here on my part. But it would not surprise me if Dallas ended up happier in the long run. And it would not surprise me to see controversy follow Parsons to GB. Some people just can’t avoid it. 

This could totally be Khalil Mack. Initially makes an impact but in the end didn’t really bring more than he cost.