9/24/25 6:40 Tigers @ Guardians

[lordstanley]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

This team is not making the playoffs.  

No one let the Tigers get hot. 

[kdog]

Stolen from a tweet...these are all the pitchers from last year who are no longer around:

 

• Beau Brieske • Sean Guenther • Ty Madden • Brenan Hanifee • Jason Foley • Bryan Sammons • Alex Faedo • Jackson Jobe

Hanifee is around but not as good.

Edited September 25 by kdog

[Tigermojo]

16 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

No one let the Tigers get hot. 

Hinch's speech when they clinch the third wild card.

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, lordstanley said:

If you have a torrid summer fling with a hot co-ed but you broke up after Labor Day, 10 years later will you be able to put the ending out of your head and just remember the good times? Probably if it was an amicable breakup, like if the Tigers lost a pennant race that was close and hard fought the whole way. But this collapse is the equivalent of not only her breaking up with you, but doing so after cheating on you with some loser dude. Hard to erase and move past that. 

I’ve been thinking along those lines myself the past day or two. This is really doing a bigger number on my baseball psyche than I imagined it would. It’s even making it harder for me to watch baseball games involving other teams, which I normally enjoy, because doing so just makes me think of The Collapse. (Yes, I am conferring that official name onto it. No need to add the team name or year to it. We will always know what it refers to, and when it happened.)

The biggest problem for me as far as The Collapse is concerned is that I am going to be hearing about it constantly for the next year, and then hearing about it occasionally for the rest of my life. This has been so monumental a collapse that it’s almost as though 2024 never even happened.

[SoCalTiger]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I joked about that early in the season.  The team has no personality.  The look like a white suburban middle class travel team.   I don't think that is why they are losing, but it makes for less entertainment.  

And the platooning and constant rotation of players from AAA makes it harder to identify with anyone other than Skubul who only plays every 5 days.

[Tigermojo]

Once the Tigers win the world series we will all laugh at our doom and gloom. Guffaw.

[oblong]

41 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’ve been thinking along those lines myself the past day or two. This is really doing a bigger number on my baseball psyche than I imagined it would. It’s even making it harder for me to watch baseball games involving other teams, which I normally enjoy, because doing so just makes me think of The Collapse. (Yes, I am conferring that official name onto it. No need to add the team name or year to it. We will always know what it refers to, and when it happened.)

The biggest problem for me as far as The Collapse is concerned is that I am going to be hearing about it constantly for the next year, and then hearing about it occasionally for the rest of my life. This has been so monumental a collapse that it’s almost as though 2024 never even happened.

yep.  And this team from mid Aug last year to mid Sep this year was fun to watch.  I would say it was more fun that those from 2011-2014.  They played good defense.  They could run. They got big hits.  We had Skubal.  It was a total team effort.  Enjoyable to watch because it could have been anybody with the big hit and we felt ok with pretty much anybody at the plate at a key moment.  If a runner was on 1st and a ball was hit down the line, they'd probably score.   It wasn't a team full of DH's. 

and I don't think my expectations this year were high.  If they made the ALCS I would have been content and called it a success.  This wasn't a foundational team meaning we had windows to worry about.  We know guys will not be here next year, regardless of how they performed.

[Toddwert]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I joked about that early in the season.  The team has no personality.  The look like a white suburban middle class travel team.   I don't think that is why they are losing, but it makes for less entertainment.  

exactly why i  have a hard time liking this team 

[lordstanley]

The Tigers collapsing down the stretch then winning the wildcard round on the road would be the ultimate "dead cat bounce".

[Edman85]

34 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

The Tigers collapsing down the stretch then winning the wildcard round on the road would be the ultimate "dead cat bounce".

Against the team that passed them no less...

[Tiger337]

57 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

exactly why i  have a hard time liking this team 

They were easy to like when they were playing well, but I was liking the way they were playing more than I liked the players.  I mean I don't dislike them, but they they are not interesting personalities.  

[romad1]

46 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

They were easy to like when they were playing well, but I was liking the way they were playing more than I liked the players.  I mean I don't dislike them, but they they are not interesting personalities.  

Not having Vierling and Meadows hurt this team.  Can't say how much but they were FWG which really pushes all the buttons for the downriver types. 

[SeattleMike]

6 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

This idea that the Tigers could contend next year is nonsense.   They're completely broken now.  They'll never get this stench off of them

1964 Phillies - never did anything again

1969 Cubs - never did anything again

1978 Red Sox - totally different team by the mid 80s

1987 Blue Jays - Took them years to recover

 

Nope, this team is finished -  Might as well trade off the core pieces and get more prospects because this is a team of losers, and I don't want them around anymore.     Nice stats, guys.    Yeah, Stats !  Riley Greene,  Nice player, sure, but he's a loser.   Spencer Torkelson, loser,  Kerry Carpenter, loser.  Get rid of them all.  Rebuild.  Hope the next batch, the 2027/28 batch has more guts then this bunch does.  

 

And Hinch?   Yeah, nice little run for about 9 months, but he's cooked too.   Might have been more lucky than good.   

Your most recent example, Toronto, defies your premise. They won 87 games and finished third in 88, finished first in 89, second in 90, first in 91 and won back to back WS in 92 and 93. So all is not lost. 

[SeattleMike]

4 hours ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

Well doesn't that just sound super fun.

Law of averages would favor the Tigers? 

[Shades of Deivi Cruz]

6 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

Law of averages would favor the Tigers? 

[tiger2022]

8 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

Law of averages would favor the Tigers? 

Nope.  Law of large numbers would be over thousands and thousands of games.  Baseball isn't a coin flip either.  Some teams are better than others.

[chasfh]

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I joked about that early in the season.  The team has no personality.  The look like a white suburban middle class travel team.   I don't think that is why they are losing, but it makes for less entertainment.  

During the first half of the year this team was one of the lost exciting, most entertaining teams of my lifetime. I dont know what’s happened either, but let’s not forget how awesome it was to watch them earlier this season. 

[chasfh]

54 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Not having Vierling and Meadows hurt this team.  Can't say how much but they were FWG which really pushes all the buttons for the downriver types. 

So was not having Jobe or Olson for much of the year, or Colt Keith at the end. 

[romad1]

13 minutes ago, chasfh said:

So was not having Jobe or Olson for much of the year, or Colt Keith at the end. 

 

[Toddwert]

3 hours ago, SeattleMike said:

Law of averages would favor the Tigers? 

the last year of Tigers baseball should tell you the law of averages doesnt apply 

Edited September 25 by Toddwert

[Toddwert]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

During the first half of the year this team was one of the lost exciting, most entertaining teams of my lifetime. I dont know what’s happened either, but let’s not forget how awesome it was to watch them earlier this season. 

i dont know they always feel like the rich kids beating the Bad News Bears to me 

[oblong]

4 hours ago, romad1 said:

Not having Vierling and Meadows hurt this team.  Can't say how much but they were FWG which really pushes all the buttons for the downriver types. 

“He looks like he has a boat in his front yard”.  My son says that about a lot of them