Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 06:35 PM Posted Saturday at 06:35 PM 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: That's true to the degree you have to go outside to make it happen. Some lucky teams have a bunch of great young cost-controlled All-Star level players coming up through the system all at the same time. That might be us in a couple or three years! I love the enthusiasm fans have for "can't miss" prospects. So many prospects never make it or just struggle so much that they're sent back to the farm to season a bit more. I hope this batch of Tiger prospects comes north and kicks ass but until they do it, I wont get too excited about them. Just....don't rush them... Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 06:35 PM Posted Saturday at 06:35 PM 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: Let's wait and see what happens when we start throwing him curves. It looks like he's got a pretty good eye, though. Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 06:37 PM Posted Saturday at 06:37 PM 2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I love the enthusiasm fans have for "can't miss" prospects. So many prospects never make it or just struggle so much that they're sent back to the farm to season a bit more. I hope this batch of Tiger prospects comes north and kicks ass but until they do it, I wont get too excited about them. Just....don't rush them... Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 06:40 PM Posted Saturday at 06:40 PM 3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I love the enthusiasm fans have for "can't miss" prospects. So many prospects never make it or just struggle so much that they're sent back to the farm to season a bit more. I hope this batch of Tiger prospects comes north and kicks ass but until they do it, I wont get too excited about them. Just....don't rush them... I love when people interpret "might" as being the same as "absolutely, unequivocally, definitely 100% will". 😉 Quote
Tiger337 Posted Saturday at 06:55 PM Author Posted Saturday at 06:55 PM 16 minutes ago, chasfh said: It looks like he's got a pretty good eye, though. One concern I have is that he may have already peaked. Given his nickname (Stormin Norman Cash?), I suspect he's old for a rookie. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Saturday at 06:57 PM Author Posted Saturday at 06:57 PM (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I love the enthusiasm fans have for "can't miss" prospects. So many prospects never make it or just struggle so much that they're sent back to the farm to season a bit more. I hope this batch of Tiger prospects comes north and kicks ass but until they do it, I wont get too excited about them. Just....don't rush them... I think McGonigle will make the team if he hits in the Spring. How good will he be? Nobody knows, but he is the most highly regarded prospect the Tigers have had in decades. Edited Saturday at 07:11 PM by Tiger337 Quote
Edman85 Posted Saturday at 07:19 PM Posted Saturday at 07:19 PM 44 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I love the enthusiasm fans have for "can't miss" prospects. So many prospects never make it or just struggle so much that they're sent back to the farm to season a bit more. I hope this batch of Tiger prospects comes north and kicks ass but until they do it, I wont get too excited about them. Just....don't rush them... Not all prospects are the same. 1 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted Saturday at 07:42 PM Posted Saturday at 07:42 PM In the BA Era, the only Tigers position prospects ranked in the Preseason Top 10 are... 2007 Cameron Maybin (6) 2021 Spencer Torkelson (5) 2022 Riley Greene (4) 2022 Spencer Torkelson (5) By all indications, McGonigle will be 2, and the talk is that he and Konnor Griffin are a different brand of a elite than most 1-2 combos. Every prospect is different. Every prospect reacts differently to failure. Saying that the Tigers shouldn't promote McGonigle because Scott Sizemore flopped shows a lack of understanding of the difference in their pedigrees. And some fan on their couch isn't going to know the ins and outs about whether failure would positively or negatively affect McGonigle more than the Tigers' staff or McGonigle himself. The Prospect Promotion Incentive Draft Pick rules give a big incentive to the Tigers to put him on the opening day roster if he is ready. 2 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM San Diego - March 26 2026 1. Torres 2B 2. McGonigle SS 3. Greene LF 4. Carpenter DH 5 Tork 1B 6. Keith 3B 7. Dingler C 8. Perez RF 9. Meadows CF Skubal P 1 Quote
IdahoBert Posted Saturday at 10:15 PM Posted Saturday at 10:15 PM 55 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: San Diego - March 26 2026 1. Torres 2B 2. McGonigle SS 3. Greene LF 4. Carpenter DH 5 Tork 1B 6. Keith 3B 7. Dingler C 8. Perez RF 9. Meadows CF Skubal P If McGonagle is the shortstop, what do we do with Baez? I’m tired of expecting Mr. Glass Meadows to repeat what he did in 2024. I’d rather see Baez in center because he seemed to hit better playing that position. I’m not sure how much worse a fielder he is than Mr. Glass but I’m not expecting his hitting to rebound. And I really enjoyed not disliking Javy last year. Quote
Shinzaki Posted Saturday at 10:23 PM Posted Saturday at 10:23 PM In the playdowns last fall Baez seemed like our most dangerous hitter 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 10:39 PM Posted Saturday at 10:39 PM 1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said: San Diego - March 26 2026 1. Torres 2B 2. McGonigle SS 3. Greene LF 4. Carpenter DH 5 Tork 1B 6. Keith 3B 7. Dingler C 8. Perez RF 9. Meadows CF Skubal P BINGO! I love this early call out on the OD lineup...!!! 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 10:40 PM Posted Saturday at 10:40 PM 3 hours ago, Edman85 said: Not all prospects are the same. Exactly. Its been said the really good ones get to the majors quickly. Like JV or Granderson. The Tigers appear to have a few knocking on the door again, it would be great if they make it up here this season. But fans need to trust Harris and his team of player development. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 10:42 PM Posted Saturday at 10:42 PM 24 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: If McGonagle is the shortstop, what do we do with Baez? I’m tired of expecting Mr. Glass Meadows to repeat what he did in 2024. I’d rather see Baez in center because he seemed to hit better playing that position. I’m not sure how much worse a fielder he is than Mr. Glass but I’m not expecting his hitting to rebound. And I really enjoyed not disliking Javy last year. If Meadow is NOT injured on opening day... I would see him starting there in CF... And Baez used wherever Hinch sees fit... SS or CF pinch-hitting and taking over when a lefty gets on the mound. If Meadow IS injured on opening day... Well, that's an easy call... start Baez in CF. Quote
SeattleMike Posted Saturday at 10:57 PM Posted Saturday at 10:57 PM 14 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Exactly. Its been said the really good ones get to the majors quickly. Like JV or Granderson. The Tigers appear to have a few knocking on the door again, it would be great if they make it up here this season. But fans need to trust Harris and his team of player development. Granderson was a bit old for a prospect. Cup of coffee at 23, 47 games at 24, first full season at 25. Compare that to Greene, who just turned 25 or Keith, who is 24. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Saturday at 11:36 PM Posted Saturday at 11:36 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Edman85 said: In the BA Era, the only Tigers position prospects ranked in the Preseason Top 10 are... 2007 Cameron Maybin (6) 2021 Spencer Torkelson (5) 2022 Riley Greene (4) 2022 Spencer Torkelson (5) By all indications, McGonigle will be 2, and the talk is that he and Konnor Griffin are a different brand of a elite than most 1-2 combos. Every prospect is different. Every prospect reacts differently to failure. Saying that the Tigers shouldn't promote McGonigle because Scott Sizemore flopped shows a lack of understanding of the difference in their pedigrees. And some fan on their couch isn't going to know the ins and outs about whether failure would positively or negatively affect McGonigle more than the Tigers' staff or McGonigle himself. The Prospect Promotion Incentive Draft Pick rules give a big incentive to the Tigers to put him on the opening day roster if he is ready. and Maybin was a pretty good ballplayer - he just couldn't stay on the field, but when he was healthy - which was rare, he was productive. Edited Saturday at 11:36 PM by gehringer_2 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: BINGO! I love this early call out on the OD lineup...!!! Thank you sir. Quote
Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM (edited) The most ballyhooed Tigers prospect I can remember from the old days was Kirk Gibson. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/1978-draft-spotlight-kirk-gibson/#:~:text=Gibson drew attention from scouts,“was his raw speed.” Quote Gibson drew attention from scouts on Michigan State’s spring trip to Texas, and the Major League Scouting Bureau graded both his speed and power at 80 on the 20-to-80 scouting scale. Bill Lajoie, the Tigers’ director of player procurement, did a double-take when he saw that report. He had scouted Gibson in high school and recalled a player badly in need of playing experience. “His only redeeming quality,” Lajoie remembered, “was his raw speed.”. This was long before Sparky Andrerson called him the next Mickey Mantle. Edited yesterday at 12:59 AM by Tiger337 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted yesterday at 12:42 AM Posted yesterday at 12:42 AM 2 hours ago, IdahoBert said: If McGonagle is the shortstop, what do we do with Baez? I’m tired of expecting Mr. Glass Meadows to repeat what he did in 2024. I’d rather see Baez in center because he seemed to hit better playing that position. I’m not sure how much worse a fielder he is than Mr. Glass but I’m not expecting his hitting to rebound. And I really enjoyed not disliking Javy last year. El Mago will play everywhere and could platoon with Meadows in center. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted yesterday at 12:49 AM Posted yesterday at 12:49 AM (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: The most bally hooed Tigers prospect I can remember from the old days was Kirk Gibson. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/1978-draft-spotlight-kirk-gibson/#:~:text=Gibson drew attention from scouts,“was his raw speed.” This was long before Sparky Andrerson called him the next Mickey Mantle. yeah - the only guy I can think of who could ever fairly have been called the 'next Mantle' would have been Mike Trout and even with the reasonable skill and athletic match, MT can't switch hit. Edited yesterday at 12:50 AM by gehringer_2 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM 1 hour ago, SeattleMike said: Granderson was a bit old for a prospect. Cup of coffee at 23, 47 games at 24, first full season at 25. Compare that to Greene, who just turned 25 or Keith, who is 24. True. But he was drafted in 2002 and made it up here in 2004. The good ones make it quick. Quote
TigerNation Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM 5 hours ago, Edman85 said: In the BA Era, the only Tigers position prospects ranked in the Preseason Top 10 are... 2007 Cameron Maybin (6) 2021 Spencer Torkelson (5) 2022 Riley Greene (4) 2022 Spencer Torkelson (5) By all indications, McGonigle will be 2, and the talk is that he and Konnor Griffin are a different brand of a elite than most 1-2 combos. Every prospect is different. Every prospect reacts differently to failure. Saying that the Tigers shouldn't promote McGonigle because Scott Sizemore flopped shows a lack of understanding of the difference in their pedigrees. And some fan on their couch isn't going to know the ins and outs about whether failure would positively or negatively affect McGonigle more than the Tigers' staff or McGonigle himself. The Prospect Promotion Incentive Draft Pick rules give a big incentive to the Tigers to put him on the opening day roster if he is ready. And another thing with McGonigle, he has physical limitations that limit his ceiling. For him to still be a consensus top 2 prospect, so much of that is because he is as safe of a bet as a prospect can be, he just has such a high floor. Quote
IdahoBert Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM 5 minutes ago, TigerNation said: And another thing with McGonigle, he has physical limitations that limit his ceiling. For him to still be a consensus top 2 prospect, so much of that is because he is as safe of a bet as a prospect can be, he just has such a high floor. What are his physical limitations? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM 3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: True. But he was drafted in 2002 and made it up here in 2004. The good ones make it quick. Curtis had stayed in school for 3yrs, which would be unusual for today's top prospects, who often come out in a year or two. Quote
4hzglory Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM 8 minutes ago, TigerNation said: And another thing with McGonigle, he has physical limitations that limit his ceiling. For him to still be a consensus top 2 prospect, so much of that is because he is as safe of a bet as a prospect can be, he just has such a high floor. He’s ranked the best overall hitting prospect since Vlad by BA with no weaknesses in any aspect of his hitting, including power. Quote
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