Sports_Freak Posted January 4 Posted January 4 6 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: He probably had Connor Stallions tape the movie while a neighbor was watching it. That was actually LOL funny... Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 4 Posted January 4 5 hours ago, papalawrence said: You all passing over grown up Pebbles? that's creepy man, just creepy ♫ So Let the sun shine in, face it with a grin ♫ Great, now that's stuck in my head Quote
Tenacious D Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I put together this positional depth chart, which the order can be debated, intended to demonstrate the volume of options, current and upcoming: C : Dingler, Rogers, Valencia, Nido, Liranzo, Briceno 1B: Torkelson, Keith, Valencia, Briceno 2B: Torres, Keith, Baez, McKinstry, McGonigle, Anderson, Lee, Jung, Cruz SS: Baez, McKinstry, McGonigle, Sweeney, Rainer, Cruz 3B: Keith, McKinstry, Vierling, Baez, McGonigle, Anderson, Jung, Lee, Cruz LF: Greene, Vierling, Jones, Cruz CF: Meadows, Vierling, Perez, Clark RF: Carpenter, Perez, Vierling, Jones, Clark If we acquire a Bregman or Bichette, for example, these are the players who become displaced for at least 2026: Keith (primarily becomes the DH), Anderson, Lee, Jung, and maybe McGonigle. I think this depth, particularly in the infield, is a main reason that Harris is reluctant to commit a 5-6 year contract to Bregman or Bo. The opportunity to upgrade our lineup is in the outfield. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: I put together this positional depth chart, which the order can be debated, intended to demonstrate the volume of options, current and upcoming: C : Dingler, Rogers, Valencia, Nido, Liranzo, Briceno 1B: Torkelson, Keith, Valencia, Briceno 2B: Torres, Keith, Baez, McKinstry, McGonigle, Anderson, Lee, Jung, Cruz SS: Baez, McKinstry, McGonigle, Sweeney, Rainer, Cruz 3B: Keith, McKinstry, Vierling, Baez, McGonigle, Anderson, Jung, Lee, Cruz LF: Greene, Vierling, Jones, Cruz CF: Meadows, Vierling, Perez, Clark RF: Carpenter, Perez, Vierling, Jones, Clark If we acquire a Bregman or Bichette, for example, these are the players who become displaced for at least 2026: Keith (primarily becomes the DH), Anderson, Lee, Jung, and maybe McGonigle. I think this depth, particularly in the infield, is a main reason that Harris is reluctant to commit a 5-6 year contract to Bregman or Bo. The opportunity to upgrade our lineup is in the outfield. If they were to land Bichette or Bregman, then there's a pretty decent chance that some of those guys you mentioned get traded to get another SP. Some sort of package deal. They don't think they are WS contenders. They think they are AL Central contenders. So they aren't going for it all. Now, should they look really, really good during the season, maybe they take a wild swing before Skubal goes away, but they had that season in 2025 and they didn't. They'd better get a King's ransom for Skubal. Quote
buddha Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: I put together this positional depth chart, which the order can be debated, intended to demonstrate the volume of options, current and upcoming: C : Dingler, Rogers, Valencia, Nido, Liranzo, Briceno 1B: Torkelson, Keith, Valencia, Briceno 2B: Torres, Keith, Baez, McKinstry, McGonigle, Anderson, Lee, Jung, Cruz SS: Baez, McKinstry, McGonigle, Sweeney, Rainer, Cruz 3B: Keith, McKinstry, Vierling, Baez, McGonigle, Anderson, Jung, Lee, Cruz LF: Greene, Vierling, Jones, Cruz CF: Meadows, Vierling, Perez, Clark RF: Carpenter, Perez, Vierling, Jones, Clark If we acquire a Bregman or Bichette, for example, these are the players who become displaced for at least 2026: Keith (primarily becomes the DH), Anderson, Lee, Jung, and maybe McGonigle. I think this depth, particularly in the infield, is a main reason that Harris is reluctant to commit a 5-6 year contract to Bregman or Bo. The opportunity to upgrade our lineup is in the outfield. other than the hope of mcgonigle, most of that depth looks like a bunch of average to below average players. would bichette be an upgrade on baez at short? is mcgonigle an upgrade on keith at third? then do what you can. the only prospect they have who is almost untouchable should be mcgonigle and maybe clark. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Wasn't sure where to put this https://x.com/i/status/2008184655355547849 2 Quote
oblong Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Jesus... Pat's been around forever. Seems like when I was a kid he was on the roundtable on Channel 4 when they had the games... wishing him a lot of comfort. Sometime in the mid 90's after the Pistons missed the playoffs 2 years in a row he said they are renaming the road at the Palace to "2 lottery drive". That stuck with me as being pretty funny. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Tigers sign reliever Scott Effross. He had a good 2022 until he had TJ surgery. He has sucked since then. Still...just a minor league contract, for less that 1 million bucks. He has one option left. Quote
Edman85 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Effross is top of mind to me when people talk about "years of control" for relievers. He was traded with a year of service time and the control was cited. He proceeded to battle injuries and flame out. Quote
chasfh Posted January 6 Posted January 6 There's something to be said for the volume strategy. Theoretically speaking, it feels as though if you spend $10MM on ten guys, you have better odds of getting something good out of one or a few of them than if you take a chance on one single reliever for the same $10MM. Devil's always in the details, of course, but if you have a good development system, the volume strategy could be an effective arrow in the quiver over time. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: There's something to be said for the volume strategy. Theoretically speaking, it feels as though if you spend $10MM on ten guys, you have better odds of getting something good out of one or a few of them than if you take a chance on one single reliever for the same $10MM. Devil's always in the details, of course, but if you have a good development system, the volume strategy could be an effective arrow in the quiver over time. Don't disagree when it comes to pitching, just because so many get hurt, please just don't give me a front office that takes the same approach with hitters - you can collect all the MiLB hitters you want and they are just as likely to all fail - quality only with hitters please! Quote
chasfh Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Don't disagree when it comes to pitching, just because so many get hurt, please just don't give me a front office that takes the same approach with hitters - you can collect all the MiLB hitters you want and they are just as likely to all fail - quality only with hitters please! We shall see whether we have enough quality in-house, coupled with developmental acuity, to keep us in the top half of offenses in the league. By way of reminder, here's how our hitters did last season: Name PA wRC+ Riley Greene 655 121 Spencer Torkelson 649 118 Gleyber Torres 628 113 Zach McKinstry 511 114 Dillon Dingler 469 109 Colt Keith 468 109 Kerry Carpenter 464 115 Javier Báez 437 86 Wenceel Pérez 383 103 Trey Sweeney 326 53 Parker Meadows 213 75 Andy Ibáñez 193 84 Jahmai Jones 150 159 Jake Rogers 142 70 Justyn-Henry Malloy 127 92 Matt Vierling 100 76 Jace Jung 55 9 Ryan Kreidler 44 -12 Tomás Nido 37 101 Manuel Margot 20 67 Akil Baddoo 18 -8 Brewer Hicklen 4 307 TEAM TOTALS 6093 103 Edited January 6 by chasfh Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 36 minutes ago, chasfh said: We shall see whether we have enough quality in-house, coupled with developmental acuity, to keep us in the top half of offenses in the league. By way of reminder, here's how our hitters did last season: Name PA wRC+ Riley Greene 655 121 Spencer Torkelson 649 118 Gleyber Torres 628 113 Zach McKinstry 511 114 Dillon Dingler 469 109 Colt Keith 468 109 Kerry Carpenter 464 115 Javier Báez 437 86 Wenceel Pérez 383 103 Trey Sweeney 326 53 Parker Meadows 213 75 Andy Ibáñez 193 84 Jahmai Jones 150 159 Jake Rogers 142 70 Justyn-Henry Malloy 127 92 Matt Vierling 100 76 Jace Jung 55 9 Ryan Kreidler 44 -12 Tomás Nido 37 101 Manuel Margot 20 67 Akil Baddoo 18 -8 Brewer Hicklen 4 307 TEAM TOTALS 6093 103 Clearly, we need more Brewer Hicklen Quote
Tenacious D Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: Tigers sign reliever Scott Effross. He had a good 2022 until he had TJ surgery. He has sucked since then. Still...just a minor league contract, for less that 1 million bucks. He has one option left. Lottery ticket. I’ll allow it. Quote
theroundsquare Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Justyn-Henry Malloy to Tampa for cold, hard cash considerations Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, theroundsquare said: Justyn-Henry Malloy to Tampa for cold, hard cash considerations JHM could have had a good career as an umpire. He can see pitches, he just can't hit them. Jahmai Jones's spot got a little safer. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) So JHM to the Rays for $$$. Why do I feel uncomfortable ? But I do wish him the best. seems like a real solid person. Edited January 6 by SoCalTiger Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 19 minutes ago, theroundsquare said: Justyn-Henry Malloy to Tampa for cold, hard cash considerations Tampa 😟 Quote
papalawrence Posted January 6 Posted January 6 He had some big hits for the Tigers. His playing time was I inconsistent with the big club. I think he has potential to be a .270/.370/.470 dh, which is decent but replaceable most free agency years. I wish him well. He's going to a good org. Quote
Edman85 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I am surprised JHM only netted cash, but I bet it was the maximum ($100,000) amount allowed. He would have gotten them $50,000 if claimed. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) hard to see how they keep him and Jones, and Jones had hit better, can play the field, and runs better. You keep JHM on the hope he hasn't hit his ceiling but the Tigers no longer have the luxury to do that to the degree Tamps does. Edited January 6 by gehringer_2 Quote
Tenacious D Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: I am surprised JHM only netted cash, but I bet it was the maximum ($100,000) amount allowed. He would have gotten them $50,000 if claimed. That’ll buy a lot of soda Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 I think that was a good cheap move by Tampa. They can see if they are able to pull more out of his one strong tool. I doubt they can, but it's worth a shot. Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 2 hours ago, papalawrence said: He had some big hits for the Tigers. His playing time was I inconsistent with the big club. I think he has potential to be a .270/.370/.470 dh, which is decent but replaceable most free agency years. I wish him well. He's going to a good org. That would be quite valuable if he could do it. So far, he has not been close. Quote
Tenacious D Posted January 6 Posted January 6 The knock against JHM was that he could only hit in the postseason. Quote
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