Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 06:35 PM Author Posted yesterday at 06:35 PM 2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: And is more related to Hinch and Fetter than anything else. IMO. Oh... WAIT!!! WHO hired Hinch? Avila? OK, that also doesn't count for Avila's credit. Because... I have seen clear evidence of Hinch's influence. And yeah, Avila hired him. Quote
1984Echoes Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM Just now, Tiger337 said: I have seen clear evidence of Hinch's influence. And yeah, Avila hired him. Doesn't count though, per chas. Avila gets credit for nothing... Absolutely nothing. Even if it takes pretzel logic to do the discrediting... "NOTHING I tell you! You get NOTHING!!!" Quote
RatkoVarda Posted yesterday at 07:12 PM Posted yesterday at 07:12 PM Petit first pick of Rule 5 Draft! Harris getting fleeced again! Quote
Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 07:17 PM Author Posted yesterday at 07:17 PM 5 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: Petit first pick of Rule 5 Draft! Harris getting fleeced again! Lynn Henning finally called something correctly. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted yesterday at 07:27 PM Posted yesterday at 07:27 PM I knew they would lose Petit. Damn. Quote
IdahoBert Posted yesterday at 07:32 PM Posted yesterday at 07:32 PM When I saw that there were four whole new pages in this thread in an hour, I thought oh my God, something big has happened! But we’re discussing the merits of Al Avila. OK. Turns out it’s a slow news day after all. Quote
Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 07:53 PM Author Posted yesterday at 07:53 PM (edited) Avila never should have traded Cody Ross Edited yesterday at 07:53 PM by Tiger337 Quote
RatkoVarda Posted yesterday at 07:54 PM Posted yesterday at 07:54 PM in minor league phase, Tigers add 4 pitchers Luke Taggert from Col, Jan Caraballo from SF, John Stankiewicz from Min, and Yendy Gomez from LAA. Tigers lose IF/OF Austin Murr, C Archer Brookman, P Travis Kuhn, and IF Danny Serretti (who somehow made top prospect lists a few years back) Quote
Edman85 Posted yesterday at 08:04 PM Posted yesterday at 08:04 PM I am curious if Rockies Rule 5 pitchers have a lower likelihood of sticking. It seems like the altitude would force a few more pitching emergencies and roster moves increasing the likelihood of a crunch. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted yesterday at 08:12 PM Posted yesterday at 08:12 PM 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I really don't see much evidence that the team performance of the last two years is all because of Harris. I expect to see more evidence at the MLB level of Harrises influence soon, but I have not seen it yet. What? You didn't like letting Candelario walk and acquiring Nick Maton to anchor 3rd base? You're pretty hard to please....😆 Quote
RedRamage Posted yesterday at 08:23 PM Posted yesterday at 08:23 PM 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: I have seen no credible evidence that there even any ink. It's probably toner instead of ink. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted yesterday at 08:26 PM Posted yesterday at 08:26 PM 20 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I am curious if Rockies Rule 5 pitchers have a lower likelihood of sticking. It seems like the altitude would force a few more pitching emergencies and roster moves increasing the likelihood of a crunch. Petit could just be the designated punching bag for all those Coors Field blowouts: "It's 12-3, that means it's Petit time!" Quote
Cruzer1 Posted yesterday at 08:34 PM Posted yesterday at 08:34 PM 27 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I am curious if Rockies Rule 5 pitchers have a lower likelihood of sticking. It seems like the altitude would force a few more pitching emergencies and roster moves increasing the likelihood of a crunch. They finally have decent leadership now, so I think they will prioritize player development. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Is Petit good and if so should we have protected him ? Quote
1984Echoes Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: in minor league phase, Tigers add 4 pitchers Luke Taggert from Col, Jan Caraballo from SF, John Stankiewicz from Min, and Yendy Gomez from LAA. Tigers lose IF/OF Austin Murr, C Archer Brookman, P Travis Kuhn, and IF Danny Serretti (who somehow made top prospect lists a few years back) I don't see a Luke Taggert ANYWHERE. I see a Cameron Taggert? Quote
1984Echoes Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Ah, well... Probably because it's spelled Taggart. I've been Olsen'd... Quote
Tenacious D Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 5 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Ah, well... Probably because it's spelled Taggart. I've been Olsen'd... Oh, the irony Quote
chasfh Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I really don't see much evidence that the team performance of the last two years is all because of Harris. I expect to see more evidence at the MLB level of Harrises influence soon, but I have not seen it yet. Good lord, transforming us from a franchise that averaged 101 games a year for six straight years under the former guy into a franchise that wins playoffs series just two years later is not much evidence to you that Scott Harris is having an impact at the MLB level?? I have no words. Edited 22 hours ago by chasfh Quote
1984Echoes Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Oh, the irony Yes... I KNOW!!! 😁 Quote
Tiger337 Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Good lord, transforming us from a franchise that averaged 101 games a year for six straight years under the former guy into a franchise that wins playoffs series just two years later is not much evidence to you that Scott Harris is having an impact at the MLB level?? I have no words. Correlation does not prove causation and saying phrases like "I have no words" is not not a persuasive argument either. I see Hinch and Fetter having an impact at the major league level. I don't see Harris having as much of an impact at that level, at least not yet. The Tigers would not be doing what they have done the last two years without the players, manager and pitching coach which Avila provided. Avila was terrible, but when you collect prospects for long enough (way too long in his case) you can build up a good base of talent. Edited 21 hours ago by Tiger337 1 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago On mlb.tv they discussed Tucker. They've been told he is getting offers in the 5-6 year range. They said with the cba uncertainty no teams are going to offer the 10-year contracts. I do think that will affect Skubal. The Dodgers will still do whatever they want and may go 10 with deferrals. But imho this does point to the risk Skubal will take by waiting. If Harris did offer 8/350 now he might consider it. For a pitcher (not counting Ohtani) that's both the highest total and AAV. Ever. To me losing Skubal hits harder than JV. The Tigers had 13 years with him, and it looked like he was in decline. Skubal is prime Randy Johnson level right now. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Correlation does not prove causation and saying phrases like "I have no words" is not not a persuasive argument either. I see Hinch and Fetter having an impact at the major league level. I don't see Harris having as much of an impact at that level, at least not yet. The Tigers would not be doing what they have done the last two years without the players, manager and pitching coach which Avila provided. Avila was terrible, but when you collect prospects for long enough (way too long in his case) you can build up a good base of talent. I would take it one step further. If Avila wouldn't have hired Hinch, the Tigers very well may not have made the playoffs the last 2 years. And Harris would be feeling a lot of heat from the media and fans. Most casual fans don't see the good he has done in rebuilding our barren farm system. They just see his lack of moves that could have helped our ML team. He has to put up or shut up this off-season, he has a playoff team that just needs a couple of pieces to seriously contend. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 5 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Is Petit good and if so should we have protected him ? https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/3422058 6 foot 8 inches and 300 pounds. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/3422058 6 foot 8 inches and 300 pounds. Strange they left him unprotected but I would probably be talking about someone else we lost if they did. Quote
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