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2 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

We can hope not.   IF the players give up a year they'll never recover what they lose.   Between a lost year of wages and seniority and the harm to the game it would be a disaster for them.    The owners would suffer too but they would have a chance long term to recoup their losses.

This seems accurate to me.  The labor side in sports leagues is unusual. Within the player population, interests diverge and in many cases significantly, e.g., a rookie with his future in mind, who will want best possible terms v. Mgmt, on one hand, and a veteran entering the last year of a lucrative (overpay) contract, who will want to get paid above all else, on the other.

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48 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

We can hope not.   IF the players give up a year they'll never recover what they lose.   Between a lost year of wages and seniority and the harm to the game it would be a disaster for them.    The owners would suffer too but they would have a chance long term to recoup their losses.

player's need to stop being stupid about getting one or two mega contracts and sign on for a fixed percentage of all the media money. It's a clean, fair, sustainable system and with the owners agreeing to revenue sharing among the themselves, it should not be a hard for all parties to get to 'yes'.

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33 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

player's need to stop being stupid about getting one or two mega contracts and sign on for a fixed percentage of all the media money. It's a clean, fair, sustainable system and with the owners agreeing to revenue sharing among the themselves, it should not be a hard for all parties to get to 'yes'.

Fan Duel would never allow the season to be significantly reduced or lost.

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44 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

player's need to stop being stupid about getting one or two mega contracts and sign on for a fixed percentage of all the media money. It's a clean, fair, sustainable system and with the owners agreeing to revenue sharing among the themselves, it should not be a hard for all parties to get to 'yes'.

It  would seem the majority of the players - the middle and lower class - would be smart enough to outvote the 5-10% getting the huge contracts.   But then again what's the saying about never underestimating the stupidity of people?

I fully understand paying for stars but I think most sports need at least some leveling of the income stratas....It's absurd when 10% of your team has 50% of the income.

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2 hours ago, NorthWoods said:

It  would seem the majority of the players - the middle and lower class - would be smart enough to outvote the 5-10% getting the huge contracts.   But then again what's the saying about never underestimating the stupidity of people?

I fully understand paying for stars but I think most sports need at least some leveling of the income stratas....It's absurd when 10% of your team has 50% of the income.

The entire world is that way.  Why would baseball be any different?  

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12 hours ago, diaspora04 said:

This seems accurate to me.  The labor side in sports leagues is unusual. Within the player population, interests diverge and in many cases significantly, e.g., a rookie with his future in mind, who will want best possible terms v. Mgmt, on one hand, and a veteran entering the last year of a lucrative (overpay) contract, who will want to get paid above all else, on the other.

This has been the case with the player population in the past also and in the end, it is always the owners who break first.   Somehow, the players are able to stay aligned more than the owners.  I do think it may be starting to change a bit in recent years so this is going to be interesting.  

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21 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

He’s often forgotten (at least by me), but still young and should be considered part of the core.

He needs to put together a full good season to be considered part of the core. Core players are not guys that are easily replaceable/upgradeable.

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41 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

 

He always seems to have one huge month followed by a couple of meh ones. Hopefully he can stack a few good months together (and it doesn't have to be at this level). 

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2 hours ago, NorthWoods said:

 

Something I just put together.  Keider Montero and he were the battery on Sunday.  Montero and Framber Valdez are from Venezuela.  I hope he's the glue to make those guys better versions of themselves.  

Also, non-political digression... not veering into politics for this thread.  Man...Venezuela...mein gott in himmell with that poor country. 

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 I know losing Skubal and Mize is tough.  But they’re only 2.5 GB.  Why can’t they beat the odds and make the playoffs?  It’s baseball.  Wacky stuff happens all the time.

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Going forward, I would be giving most of Torres’ time at DH, or at least as much as I could.  If they’ve kept him, if they’re close enough to make a playoff push, if they have plenty of other 2B options, they might as well try to keep Torres as healthy and productive as possible and allow for guys like Keith and Lee to get time in the field.

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