04/15/2026 6:40 pm EDT Kansas City Royals at Detroit Tigers

[casimir]

[romad1]

We have now beaten an American league team.  I own a copy of the book above.  It is not for sale. 

[casimir]

Its Jackie Robinson Day.

[casimir]

28 minutes ago, romad1 said:

We have now beaten an American league team.  I own a copy of the book above.  It is not for sale. 

I read that book for a book report in grade school.  I don't think the teacher was happy that I chose it.  But she audibly laughed when I read aloud Sparky's entry about clinching the division.  He got cut by a bottle of champagne and remarked how the mixture of blood and bubbly looked good on his jersey.

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

I hope the boys all got their taxes done and don't have to rush to finish up before gametime.

[romad1]

37 minutes ago, casimir said:

Its Jackie Robinson Day.

Dude deserves his day to be sure. 

[oblong]

I have to do my taxes tonight.  

I have my thoughts on Jackie Robinson day.  It's great we honor him and what he had to go through and he deserves all of it.  But I've always felt that the way MLB frames this is an attempt to absolve them of the reason we need a Jackie Robinson Day.  There's one reason we have this day and it's because MLB was run by a bunch of racists who didn't want blacks in baseball.  Jackie didn't break the color barrier because "finally we had a qualified back person that could play".  He broke it because of the courage of some to decide it was time.  Still others didn't believe that and orgs like Boston and Detroit held out even further.

[Motor City Sonics]

 

[romad1]

4 minutes ago, oblong said:

I have to do my taxes tonight.  

I have my thoughts on Jackie Robinson day.  It's great we honor him and what he had to go through and he deserves all of it.  But I've always felt that the way MLB frames this is an attempt to absolve them of the reason we need a Jackie Robinson Day.  There's one reason we have this day and it's because MLB was run by a bunch of racists who didn't want blacks in baseball.  Jackie didn't break the color barrier because "finally we had a qualified back person that could play".  He broke it because of the courage of some to decide it was time.  Still others didn't believe that and orgs like Boston and Detroit held out even further.

They should have an Andy Messersmith day? 

All the things you say are true.  He is a reflection on the bigotry.  But there still had to be that one guy who broke that barrier.   Hank Aaron had to face death threats for breaking the Babe's record.  Willie Horton had to try to mollify a mob in his uniform.  America has and will suck regarding race relations.   Plenty of evidence about.  Be it woke virtue signaling or actual bravery in the face of ignorance...I'm giving him the nod. 

[romad1]

Just now, romad1 said:

They should have an Andy Messersmith day? 

All the things you say are true.  He is a reflection on the bigotry.  But there still had to be that one guy who broke that barrier.   Hank Aaron had to face death threats for breaking the Babe's record.  Willie Horton had to try to mollify a mob in his uniform.  America has and will suck regarding race relations.   Plenty of evidence about.  Be it woke virtue signaling or actual bravery in the face of ignorance...I'm giving him the nod. 

Particularly in a country that has a Confederate History month in the month those traitorous losers lost the civil war. 

[oblong]

it's not a criticism of Jackie but a reminder of why we know of him beyond being a great player.  When we say he broke the color barrier what we mean is he was picked by racists as acceptable in an attempt to make it look like they were righting their wrong.  To me it's like someone writing a check to charity for domestic violence support after being discovered as an abuser.